In Which John C. Wright Completely Loses his Shit over Legend of Korra
ETA: Good morning, all! For the new folks, please know that while disagreement is fine, I don’t have much patience for trolling, sock-puppetry, and for showing up in my space to act like a douchewagon. Comments that can’t handle that will be fed to the goblins.
ETA2: And to forestall certain individuals’ whining about “free speech,” please see this post: Freedom of Speech 101.
ETA3: As of April 2015, it looks like Mr. Wright has deleted his post. It’s archived at the Wayback Machine, however.
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To the shock of nobody who’s ever read his blog, John C. Wright is Very Unhappy with the ending of The Legend of Korra, in which Korra and Asami, two female women characters of the same girlish gender, hold hands while walking off into the spirit world together. Wright links to an article which confirms the romantic relationship between these two women, and writes:
“A children’s show, of all places, is where you decided to place an ad for a sexual aberration; you pervert your story telling skills to the cause of propaganda and political correctness.”
I assume Wright’s blog post was written over the course of several days, as he would have needed time to swoon over the horrific perversion of two women holding hands. Not to mention having to counsel his poor, traumatized children.
Keep in mind, this is a show that not only had explicit male/female smooching, but has also shown a woman being suffocated to death via airbending, the imprisonment and torture of Korra, the suicide of a season one villain, and plenty of other instances of brutal violence. But this is what Wright feels he must “protect” the children from.
Wright continues:
“You were not content to leave the matter ambiguous, no, but had publicly to announce that you hate your audience, our way of life, our virtues, values, and religion.”
The delusionality is strong with this one. Watch as he attempts to speak for an entire audience, many of whom were screaming with happiness at the Korra/Asami revelation.
Go watch this video of fan reactions. Look at the joy on those people’s faces.
These are some of the people he’s trying to speak for. Do they look like people whose way of life, whose values and religion and virtues, are so incredibly fragile that they can be hurt so badly by a several-second clip of two women holding hands, or the idea of two women falling in love?
Mister Wright, you do not speak for the audience of this show. You speak for yourself, and perhaps for a small group of intolerant bigots who can’t accept the slightest acknowledgement or recognition of relationships you personally disapprove of, for whatever twisted reason.
“Mr DiMartino and Mr Konietzko: You are disgusting, limp, soulless sacks of filth. You have earned the contempt and hatred of all decent human beings forever, and we will do all we can to smash the filthy phallic idol of sodomy you bow and serve and worship. Contempt, because you struck from behind, cravenly; and hatred, because you serve a cloud of morally-retarded mental smog called Political Correctness, which is another word for hating everything good and bright and decent and sane in life.”
The Phallic Idol of Sodomy. Also known as the Ypsilanti Water Tower:
I went to grad school in Ypsi. It’s amazing I escaped with my heterosexuality intact, spending two years in such close proximity to the PIoS!
A part of me wants to ask what happened to Mr. Wright that a couple of bisexual cartoon characters could send him into such an apoplexy of hatred and rage. What happened to make you so afraid, sir?
But before we get into that, I have to ask how you came to the conclusion that a relationship between two women was all about phallicism and sodomy. I think you might be a little confused as to how things work. Does someone need to sit you down and have “the talk”?
Wright concludes his rant by saying:
“I have no hatred in my heart for any man’s politics, policies, or faith, any more than I have hatred for termites; but once they start undermining my house where I live, it is time to exterminate them.”
Right. There’s nothing hateful about calling people “disgusting, limp, soulless sacks of filth,” or comparing them to termites and calling for their extermination.
Avatar: The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra are shows about overcoming hatred and violence and fear. How can you claim to be “a lifelong fan” when you hold so much hatred and intolerance in your heart?
Aang would be so disappointed in you. I suspect Korra would simply turn her back on you and your irrelevant, close-minded views.
I know I’m not going to change your mind. I’m not going to break you out of your little world, or get you to see that the rest of the world is moving on without you. I doubt I’ll make any difference in helping you to see how much Korra and Asami matter to people, how important a step this was. I doubt you’ll recognize LGBT people as human beings with as much value and right to love and happiness as you or me.
But I can damn well make sure you understand that you do not speak for the audience of this show. You are not the mouthpiece for fans. Speak your poison in your own name if you must, but don’t tarnish the rest of fandom with your bile.
On that note, I’ll leave you with a couple of fan-made gifs.
Maggie Faid
December 31, 2014 @ 7:21 pm
I wanted to point you briefly toward White Collar. There is a main cast character for multiple seasons who routinely refers to her wife, and also is pretty kick ass.
Dara Korra'ti
December 31, 2014 @ 7:26 pm
Oh, look, there’s a Three Stooges marathon on IFC right now. If you hurry you can still catch some episodes!
Jim C. Hines
December 31, 2014 @ 7:29 pm
Montague (C. M. Boyd) – And now it’s time for you to walk away. Thanks for playing. Best of luck finding another blog where you can act like a jackass and call it “debate” to make yourself feel clever!
HelenS
December 31, 2014 @ 7:38 pm
*pricks up ears* Yes?
Dara Korra'ti
December 31, 2014 @ 7:41 pm
And were you want a serious discussion, you’d have to start somewhere dramatically more defendable than declaring acknowledgement of the very existence of me and mine to be some sort of “filthy phallic idol of sodomy you bow and serve and worship,” because honestly, pretending that “Ho there, you disgusting sexual fetish slave, why don’t we have a reasonable discussion about what wretched, vile, revolting creatures you obviously are?” to be a sane debate lead can at best elicit incredulous laughter from a rational person, and might, quite reasonably, actually be considered grounds for a restraining order.
HelenS
December 31, 2014 @ 7:44 pm
There is no possibility of honest dissent. There is no question of competing priorities. They are right. Those who disagree with them are merely evil.
Projection much? It was your guy who assumed that having a different opinion from him about homosexuality meant bowing, serving, and worshiping a filthy phallic idol. Not a lot of room for “honest dissent” in his point of view.
Dara Korra'ti
December 31, 2014 @ 7:47 pm
Kukai in Thornton Place. They’re a Japanese chain that now has two locations in North America, both in the Seattle area. One’s in Northgate, one’s in Bellevue.
Nate McBride
December 31, 2014 @ 10:13 pm
Whelp, I have my New Year’s Resolution: finally get around to watching both Avatar: The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra. Except I already looked up Avatar in the library search catalog, and they’re missing Book 2. Maybe they have it in the next city over….
Sephy
December 31, 2014 @ 10:57 pm
I think this really explains it. As someone who has been a fan of Avatar and LoK for a very long time, I’ve seen a lot of fans of the show wishing Asami and Korra could end up together, but realistically knowing it couldn’t happen. I remember also a lot o these people being hated on, and being called ‘delusional’ for even joking or half-seriously suggesting that the two women should get together, by people who didn’t understand that they didn’t actually think it would happen in real life . So yeah, there’s a lot o disbelief and vindication right now, and a lot of hate as well, from people who had been 100% convinced it would never happen. It’s a shame a victory has to be tainted with so much disbelief and hate, but its a victory nevertheless.
Erica Wagner
December 31, 2014 @ 11:24 pm
A great example of the way childish logic can put adults to shame. Sounds like a great kid 🙂
vanderleun
December 31, 2014 @ 11:55 pm
From Wright to HInes….
“As for the first point, it is the informal logical fallacy known as ad populum. He is asserting that the minority opinion is always wrong. And it is a false assertion in any case: Their great claim to moral superiority of the pro-irrationality faction Mr Hines represents rests on their inferiority in numbers or in power or both, that is, on their underdog status. If they are in the majority, that claim evaporates.
As for the second point, it is ad hominem. Evidently Mr Hines imagines himself to be The Shadow, who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men.
Sadly for him, the evil is not where he detects it. I am not the bigot here. The bigot is the one who denounces everyone whose opinion differs from his own as bigots.”
http://www.scifiwright.com/2014/12/an-open-letter-to-mr-hines/
Dear Mr Hines: If a writing team betrays me for my loyalty by halting the story to preach a sermon on a religion that is alien to my religion and hostile to it, those writers get no grief for being treacherous, sly, or underhanded; but I get grief for daring to have a religion that differs from theirs, and for following as my conscience dictates, even though I am not being treacherous, sly, or hidden here.
I am the not ashamed of my beliefs, ergo I do not need to sneak in little sly advertisement for them into a children’s show, into the literal last two minutes, without warning, and so ambiguously that it requires a later public statement to take a stand.
Nor am I, Mr. Hines, the bigot here. You are. You are so craven in your bigotry, that you do not even do me the courtesy of addressing me directly, nor linking to the column with which you took exception, nor discussing the merits of the case.
(Also: learn to read English, please, sir. I did not call for the extermination of people, but of ideas.)
HelenS
December 31, 2014 @ 11:59 pm
Thanks, that looks wonderful.
Christopher Helton
January 1, 2015 @ 12:00 am
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
Dara Korra'ti
January 1, 2015 @ 1:00 am
Does Mr. Wright know you’re reposting his text nearly verbatim as your own? Or is this Mr. Wright reposting his own material under a
sockpuppetpseudonym? If the former, you might want to adjust pronouns in that last sentence. A different person would say, “He did not call for the extermination of people, but of ideas,” rather than “I did not call for the extermination of people, but of ideas.”In short, please remember to keep your sockpuppetry neat, correct, and at least vaguely plausible.
Also, the existence of me and mine continues not to be a religion, no matter how many times you assert it is. The existence of me and mine is orthogonal to your religion, in much the same way as electricity and anti-geocentrism. (At least, according to the Pope. Your milage may vary.)
Also also, an ending you dislike is not treachery, or treason. Particularly not since it was built for the previous two seasons of the show, as has been confirmed by the people who wrote it. Those not determinedly ignoring it saw it happenings; see my comment above to your previous posting of this same text, that is, if you are Mr. Wright. If you merely copied his text without reasonable attribution, then, well, same notation, I guess, Mr. Plagiariser. Either or both of you will no doubt be interested in continuing to ignore my Big List of Korra-Asami Relationship Sources as collected on Wikipedia.
Also also also, the entire series presupposes a very different universe with correspondingly very different set of religions and belief spirits, none of which are Christian in the slightest, much less Catholic; I can’t imagine how this slipped by you, or how you think any of it – reincarnation, spirits, elemental avatars, and so on – could be even remotely compatible with Christianity. If you want to complain about a “religion that is alien to my religion,” you might start the religions of everyone in the entire show.
I realise this subtlety may have missed you, but given that it is a presupposition for the entire structure of the story, and that the Avatar’s role as balancer across elements was the repeated metaphorical point of the entire Legend of Korra series, I might’ve thought it would’ve caught your notice, between all the other bits. Perhaps I should stand corrected on that point.
Yours in LA LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU, apparently,
— Dara
Rachel Blackman
January 1, 2015 @ 2:00 am
Movie? What movie? There was a movie? It must have come out while I was in Tahiti—it’s a magical place—around the same time as all the bad comics crossover events people complain about, and…
(Wait, should I should stop abusing the SHIELD traumatic-memory removal tech?)
Kantus
January 1, 2015 @ 9:53 am
Really? Does this not ashame you? You *yourself admit* that you *have not read* the article, yet you have the gall to make assertions about what it *probably* says? Look, you don’t have to read the article, but if you do not do so, you are not entitled to comment on the article, and to make judgments about it.
Kado
January 1, 2015 @ 2:26 pm
YES.
Sunflower
January 1, 2015 @ 6:20 pm
Good question, since a quick check of Wikipedia shows that the man who established the HRC has been dead for over two decades (Steve Endean), and cannot have been ‘recently’ arrested.
Sunflower
SorchaRei
January 1, 2015 @ 7:04 pm
I know it was already pointed out, but the part of this that baffles me the most is this: The entire series is based on a religion that not only is not Christianity but that is, in fact, incompatible with Christianity. How is it that this was not an issue until the last scenes of the last series? If you can’t bear to have your entertainment polluted with non-RC ideas, why were you watching this at all?
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vlskl
January 1, 2015 @ 11:35 pm
Well, Anthy says Utena still exists and I’m inclined to take her word for it. She seems knowledgeable about these things. She also seems certain that she will find Utena, which is further reinforced by the repeated discussion about drinking tea together in the future and the simply triumphant tone of the last scenes. Rather than a tragedy or even more or less of a tragedy, I saw it as a delayed happy end. Of course it would have been more satisfying to end the series with them making out naked on a speeding wrecked car, but that’s what movies are for.
N Fisher
January 2, 2015 @ 12:15 am
FYI, Wright is NOT a Campbell Award winner, “widely regarded” or otherwise. He had *one* book nominated for the John W. Campbell Memorial Award back in 2003 (a year when TEN novels were shortlisted), lost to Nancy Kress (a brilliant Hard SF author, who’s won every major award in SF, some repeatedly, in four decades of writing), and he hasn’t made the list since. xdpaul’s attempt to re-cast Wright as a “Campbell Award winner” is especially bizarre, considering that several REAL Campbell, Nebula, and Hugo Award winners have been posting here…
Katharine Kerr
January 2, 2015 @ 12:47 am
Thanks, Sally. Things are going as well as they can, considering the situation.
FireSeraph
January 2, 2015 @ 5:27 am
I don’t think anyone should be ashamed of not reading something as hate-filled as that article. Even reading the excerpts here on Mr Hines’ post is enough to make my blood boil in futile rage.
So no. Maybe I would be able to get a better understanding of where he’s coming from if I were to read Mr Wright’s post, maybe I won’t. But hate is hate no matter how we want to justify it and if by not reading it means there’s less hate in this world, sure why not?
Elizabeth Mancz
January 2, 2015 @ 7:38 am
SPOILER ALERT. True, but in the last of the Storm books, they get out of Sorrows and have the choice as I recall of Heaven i
or reincarnation together. So eventually they have a happy ending, as does at least one otger gay couple in the series. No, two.
Elizabeth Mancz
January 2, 2015 @ 7:55 am
It means that you are attempting to derail this conversation. This is a common tactic of those lacking a valid contribution to the discussion.
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kantus
January 2, 2015 @ 12:21 pm
His objection was with the *writers* using the show to preach what he (and I would not choose his words) calls a religion, namely liberalism, or at least some vaguely pro-gay marriage sentiment. As I said, I would not use his words, or call it a religion, but anyone who gave that article a fair reading would realise that his objection was to the writers explicitly spouting and promoting their political/social beliefs through the show, and that those beliefs offended his, rather than the fact that the show has a sort of pseudo-Shintoism within it.
Dara Korra'ti
January 2, 2015 @ 12:36 pm
And I return yet again to object to the assertion that acknowledging the existence of me and mine is some sort of “spouting and promoting… political/social beliefs.”
I realise he is making that assertion, but I object to it fundamentally on the basis that the position he implicitly but clearly takes – that only elimination or specific condemnation of me and mine counts as “neutral” – is a fundamentally dishonest position. I am not arguing that it isn’t the position of the pan-fundamentalist movement, because it patently and obviously is. I am merely noting that it is deeply dishonest.
Sistercoyote
January 2, 2015 @ 9:34 pm
“She likes the hat.”
“She wants to wear the hat.”
Ken
January 2, 2015 @ 11:00 pm
But he doesn’t have hatred for anyone… he just wants to pretend you don’t exist. Why would anyone be upset about that?? 😉
It’s like ninjas. Ninjas work really hard to make us think they don’t exist. So he thinks you should be like ninjas, I guess. Don’t you want to be like a ninja? Ninjas are cool.
Dara Korra'ti
January 2, 2015 @ 11:15 pm
I realise this is humour – unlike the various people I have mocked for being unable to recognise or process humour elsewhere – but even so, I must restate:
The harmfulness of this erasure has been demonstrated several times in this thread alone. Hence the outpouring of relief and ending of pain at the culmination of this series, and this finale.
Invisibility is cool – but only when chosen, not when forced upon you.
Ken
January 2, 2015 @ 11:17 pm
That is, if ninjas existed they would be cool. But they don’t exist, of course. And any time those Leftists show a ninja in a cartoon they are pushing a pro-ninja lifestyle on our poor children.
And don’t get me started on all those Godzilla movies confusing our children! One of my kids once saw a monster movie and wanted to be a monster. I actually had to sit down and explain to him that destroying Tokyo is a sinful act and that he must never become a 300 foot tall monster. It is treacherous and sly for them to push their Progressivism religion on us with it’s pro-300 foot tall monster agenda. If only those Leftists wouldn’t expose my children to 300 foot tall monsters, ninjas, or women holding hands, I could live peacefully in my little world where I pretend the things I don’t like don’t exist. But nooOOOooo! Everywhere I look it’s Godzilla, ninjas, and lesbians! Think of the children!!
Ken
January 2, 2015 @ 11:24 pm
Oh, and just to be clear (because I went off even further with the humor below), I am entirely trying to mock their view because it is so absurd. The erasure of certain identities is a very serious problem.
It’s just been a long day for me, so I’m feeling goofy. Plus the thought that showing that these people actually exist is a “betrayal” is so utterly bizarre and nonsensical, that I can only respond with rage or laughter. I’ve had plenty of rage lately, so this time the humor was coming out instead.
As the father of a bisexual teenager, I am all too sensitive to the disgustingness and dangerousness of views like Wright’s. I hope my mockery of them isn’t interpreted as making light of the seriousness of the problem.
Dara Korra'ti
January 2, 2015 @ 11:48 pm
I realise this is late, but coming back to yet another reply elsewhere made me look again at the original quote, that he says is him talking about the elimination of ideas. Let’s look at it again:
I have no hatred in my heart for any man’s politics, policies, or faith, any more than I have hatred for termites; but once they start undermining my house where I live, it is time to exterminate them.
Awfully sloppy metaphors, aren’t they, to carry a meaning that became so carefully specific? “Ideas” – abstract concepts of politics, policies, faith, all grand in scale – mapped to “termites” – living beings, albeit tiny.
Politics, policies, faith… not concrete at all, but are all to be exterminated if deemed unfit by his religion. But ideas – to use his grouping – aren’t beings, they do not live – they can be forgotten; policies can be abolished, perhaps – but none can be truly killed, since they have no life to lose.
But people certainly do. And where do politics, policies, and faith live? In the minds of people, of course. Who are very much living things.
Just as are termites, which are to be exterminated.
Mr. Wright can assail the literacy of anyone he might want. But I might suggest his use of metaphor reveals more than he might want to admit.
Dara Korra'ti
January 2, 2015 @ 11:58 pm
I was worried about that – I’m not offended, and hope I didn’t make you think I was. Believe me – I’m just… this is such a viper pit of a topic that it becomes the sort of thing I will chase down at every opportunity.
Particularly now that we finally have one. I will defend this to the end.
rochrist
January 3, 2015 @ 4:30 am
This is all pretty rich coming from Wright. His Chronicles of Chaos trilogy gave off same /really/ creepy rapey and pedo vibes. Of course all teens who are secretly Greek goddesses like to be held down and forcibly kissed, never mind get spanked by the headmaster. Although looking at the date of publication, he might not have converted to the Catholic Church at that point. I guess his penchant for Catholic schoolgirls predates his obsession with the church.
SorchaRei
January 3, 2015 @ 8:29 am
Either what happens in the story is In The Story, in which case, both the not-Christian religion and the presence and acceptability of the relationship depicted in the end are In The Story, and are judged as parts of the story, or they are susceptible to his out of the story standards. If he can accept the incompatible-with-Christianity religion as a story element despite its utter inacceptability as a religious option in his own (and, presumably, his minor children’s) life, then he can accept the existence of the relationship in the same way. If the relationship is unacceptable in the story world because it violates his values, then the not-Christian religion is also unacceptable for the same reason. And if he claims that one is acceptable and one is not, then he has actually to make an argument for why that is true, which I did not see anywhere in his post.
What I saw was that he has two categories of “not okay in John C. Wright’s actual life” stuff in stories. There’s stuff he would never consider acceptable as a way to live his life but that’s okay in a story and then there is stuff that is not only not okay in his real life that is also not okay in a story. If stuff in that second category shows up, it can only be because the authors decided to pollute the story with their own religious beliefs. And again, I have seen no evidence or argument to support this position from him. He asserts (or you assert for him) that they are obviously different, but they are not, so he doesn’t get to make that assertion without arguing that it is true.
Which means that he’s being at best inconsistent and at worst hypocritical.
delagar
January 3, 2015 @ 2:01 pm
Yes, this.
Which — if you call him on it — is his defense, at least as I’ve seen him make it when he responds to reviews on Amazons. “They’re not really adolescent Catholic school-girls getting forced into sex; they’re goddesses! They LIKE being forced into sex! They LIKE being spanked!”
(Or words to that effect.)
While we’re on his creepiness, is anyone else bothered by his faux-intellectual prolixity? You gotta think he’s hiding some real creepiness behind all that sesquipedalian discourse. No one talks like that who’s not trying to cover up something.
Jim C. Hines
January 3, 2015 @ 2:07 pm
I’d prefer if we could avoid speculating about people’s personal predilections and creepiness. Challenge Wright on his words and actions, but the conjecture is straying into areas I’m uncomfortable hosting, and would rather avoid. Thanks.
HelenS
January 3, 2015 @ 2:49 pm
And I don’t think anyone has yet pointed out that you don’t “bow an idol.” That kind of “bow” is not a transitive verb. You bow BEFORE an idol, or DOWN TO an idol, or somesuch. I know, I know, a tidgy little point, but it was making me itch.
delagar
January 3, 2015 @ 5:04 pm
Okay. Sorry.
John C Wright
January 3, 2015 @ 7:52 pm
Mr Hines, I am pleased and surprised that there is a line you will not cross when it comes to your ideological opponents. This implies to me that you do have some sense of decency and honor when it comes to dealing with other professionals in the field.
If so, please do me the courtesy, should another case like this arise, of contacting me before launching an assault, as, for example, the rather vitriolic Mr David Brin did in a parallel circumstance.
Such a courtesy would also prevent embarrassing mistakes of understanding, as when you misread a sentence written in plain English.
To me, I seem to be defending good writing, good morals, and the innocence of children. If I am deceived on this, I should be pitied rather than scorned, for what could be more tragic than a man who thinks he is upholding virtue by his words and deeds, unwittingly upholding vice?
But to undeceive me would require a rational argument rather than a flurry of emotion. Drop me a note next time, and if we must be foes, let us be such in a civilized fashion.
John C Wright
Jim C. Hines
January 3, 2015 @ 8:17 pm
John,
I do pity you your beliefs. My scorn is for the very real hurt and damage you spread with them. And I’m afraid nothing I’ve read from you suggests you’re interested in rational argument. You don’t get to spew things like, “Contempt, because you struck from behind, cravenly; and hatred, because you serve a cloud of morally-retarded mental smog called Political Correctness, which is another word for hating everything good and bright and decent and sane in life” and then attempt to talk down to me for my “flurry of emotion.”
If you would be civilized, then you should accept that civilization includes even those who worship “the filthy phallic idol of sodomy.” So long as you think that acknowledging those others and allowing them a place in our society and our stories, so long as you argue that such ideas must be exterminated like termites, I’m afraid our definition of “civilized” is too different for there to be productive disagreement.
If you read through the comments here, you’ll see people talking about the hurt they’ve suffered from attitudes such as yours. There’s a lot of anger here, yes — the result of ongoing discrimination, emotional and physical violence, rejection from society, and more.
You’re welcome to think of me as a “cowardly little dipshit,” as one of your readers put it. But I hope that if nothing else, you understand that the pain other people are expressing in the comments here is real. You obviously have the right to your beliefs, and you have the right to express those beliefs. Just understand, please, that those words can cause real hurt and harm to a lot of very good people.
-Jim
HelenS
January 3, 2015 @ 9:08 pm
Mr. Wright, I have three children, and I would be sorry for them to be brought up in your views. (As two of them are 20, and one 16, they have been mostly brought up already.) If that makes me one who bows before the filthy phallic idol of sodomy, so be it.
I do in fact believe you to be knowingly, not unwittingly, upholding what I regard as vice.
Gregory Gee
January 4, 2015 @ 3:33 am
I was raised Catholic but am no longer. My step-mother still is, and invites priests around for dinner every now and then.
There’s a very particular world-weary sigh Catholic priests tend to give when the topic of converts comes up.
Donna Barr
January 4, 2015 @ 2:21 pm
I fucked up with the Desert Peach musical – regardless of my being a co-writer with a gay man – in having the Peach lose his lover at the end of the play. Corrected that big-time in the series. The Peach and Rosen grow to be a grumpy married couple, squabbling, with pets, and are together when one of them chooses to die when his body finally says “enough.” I dunno if it’s very romantic – but hopefully I artwitched some good out there.
Fraser
January 4, 2015 @ 7:16 pm
Dude, if you post publicly, anybody and his dog is entitled to respond without calling for clarification. Even before the Internet, if someone wrote a letter to the editor i disagreed with, I wouldn’t contact them before writing back.
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C.
January 14, 2015 @ 2:03 am
But the Bell Tower doesn’t look like a penis. At all.
/went to BSU for five years