Striking a Pose (Women and Fantasy Covers)
A while back, we had a discussion on the blog about the cover art for my princess novels. For the most part, I really like these covers, but they’re not perfect.
Now I could talk about the way women are posed in cover art … or I could show you. I opted for the latter, in part because it helped me to understand it better. I expected posing like Danielle to feel a little weird and unnatural. I did not expect immediate, physical pain from trying (rather unsuccessfully) to do the hip thing she’s got going on.
I recruited my wife to take the pictures, which she kindly did with a minimum of laughter.
Being me, I naturally couldn’t stop there. I headed over to Amazon and grabbed a sampling of book covers, primarily urban fantasy, and spent the evening doing a photoshoot.
I’m tempted to use the Night Myst pic as my new author photo.
In all seriousness, I spent the rest of last night with pain running through most of my back. Even the pose in The Shape of Desire, which first struck me as rather low-key, is difficult to imitate and feels really forced. Trying to launch my chest and buttocks in two different directions a la Vicious Grace? Just ow.
To be clear, there’s nothing wrong with being sexual. I can totally see Snow from the princess books flaunting her stuff, for example. But posing like these characters drives home exactly what’s being emphasized and what’s not.
My sense is that most of these covers are supposed to convey strong, sexy heroines, but these are not poses that suggest strength. You can’t fight from these stances. I could barely even walk.
Guys, you should try it sometime. Get someone who won’t laugh at you too much to try to help you match these poses. The physical challenge is far more enlightening than anything I could say. (Wardrobe changes are optional.)
A few covers which I feel do a pretty good job of conveying strong, capable female characters: The Gaslight Dogs, An Artificial Night, The Darkest Edge of Dawn. Other suggestions and general discussion are welcome, as always.
Related: A contortionist and martial artist tries to imitate a comic book “fighting pose” … and can’t do it.
Tifani
January 11, 2012 @ 5:20 pm
I’ve never read any of your books, but after having this great blog post shared with me, I’m off to see what you are all about. Great stuff!
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Lily
January 11, 2012 @ 5:38 pm
It might help to have some dance experience… the Vicious Grace one I think I might be able to imitate, but not in a pain free way.
Wrenn
January 11, 2012 @ 5:38 pm
I’d add to the list – martial artists, contortionists – and dancers could pull off many of these moves.
But it’s really goes to show how much the ‘female figure cover art’ more closely follows the pictures of professional models posing than anything from reality. Most model picture poses are forced and uncomfortable.
Turquise
January 11, 2012 @ 5:39 pm
Love you and those pics! Pure awesomness!
Though you need a bra for the “Vicious Grace” photo, don’t you think so? 😉
hiraethin
January 11, 2012 @ 5:41 pm
While I take your point, and in visual media I can’t help but laugh at woefully unrealistic portrayals. At the same time, cover art has a job to do… and IMO the covers you have criticised are much more eye-catching than those you have noted for their realism.
Kerrimaryberry
January 11, 2012 @ 5:43 pm
Being a girl is hard. Being a girl on the cover a fantasy novel is SUPER hard. lol.
These are all really great! Really funny!
Jess
January 11, 2012 @ 5:44 pm
What she said..
Nikki-ann
January 11, 2012 @ 5:46 pm
Sent here by Jess Haines… An absolutely brilliant post! 😀
Jim C. Hines
January 11, 2012 @ 5:47 pm
A bra (or reasonable substitute) was debated…
sara g
January 11, 2012 @ 5:48 pm
I look forward to showing this to my 16 year old son and the conversation that will follow.
Victoria
January 11, 2012 @ 5:57 pm
I’d seen the contortionist’s article you linked to at the bottom of your piece, and after it generated an argument with a few of my male friends about how the poses weren’t really that unrealistic, I tried out a few similar stances in the mirror. Even with female hips the bendy-torso shots are excruciating after a short time, and there’s no way you can physically achieve the poses where the character’s top and bottom endowments are given equal coverage, as the bottom is usually impossibly bootylicious due to the exaggerated spine curvatures the figures are given by artists.
I was going to enlist my husband to take a few pictures of me trying some of these for a similar blog article, but you’ve now saved me the pain and effort, as well as doing so in a much more humorous fashion, thanks to being of the opposing gender. My sincerest gratitude to you! (Especially for the saving of the pain part – my right hip hated me for the rest of the evening and part of the next day after contorting myself into just a facsimile of that one pose.)
S. Rune Emerson
January 11, 2012 @ 5:57 pm
These pictures are hilarious. This was my first time seeing your website, and I originally came to compliment your Stepsister Scheme series. I especially liked the ending, and Morveren from Mermaid’s Madness…
Now? I’m sort of at a loss! *chuckles* Definitely didn’t expect this! You made my day, sir!
Turquise
January 11, 2012 @ 6:02 pm
I know the pain, everytime before my aikido training I have to remind everybody about my own do-not-damage spots… Sometimes it may be pretty annoying.
BethanytheMartian
January 11, 2012 @ 6:13 pm
Jim, this is why you’re one of my favorites. So funny.
There’s a tumblr dedicated to pointing out extreme examples of badly posed women in comic art, called escher girls: http://eschergirls.tumblr.com/ The work featured there is much more extreme, and includes drawn images of women who probably don’t have internal organs, and might have severe spinal injuries. Kinda fun to browse through for the anatomy fail.
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Mardigras
January 11, 2012 @ 6:24 pm
One word, Fantabulous! Brains and…..I won’t use that word!
Annie Bellet
January 11, 2012 @ 6:30 pm
I used to model, and I quickly learned that what looks good for a camera and in a still frame isn’t usually what feels good. A lot of strange twisting, flexing, and doing things to get interesting angles. It’s harder work than it seems. So some of it might be that a lot of these poses were designed to show off a body more than be realistic.
But yeah, not good for combat at all. Thank you for the pictures, and the laughs. Night Myst should totally be your new author photo! 🙂
Graylin Fox
January 11, 2012 @ 6:31 pm
I love this. Thank you for pointing out the reality vs. fantasy. And I’d like to thank you for Goblin Quest. I’m not sure my goblin would be as adorable if I hadn’t fallen for yours first.
Tracey C
January 11, 2012 @ 6:40 pm
Jo Walton’s The King’s Peace has a rather nice and entirely believable cover.
Sean
January 11, 2012 @ 6:48 pm
did anyone else notice the further down the page you get the less clothes Jim has on….just sayin’
Vespers
January 11, 2012 @ 6:59 pm
As it happens, I’ve read Princess of Wands, the book which Queen of Wands is apparently the sequel to, and I don’t remember much in the way of flying or floating being the sort of things the protagonist gets up to. Also, said protagonist is a soccer mom from the American south, so sword dances aren’t really in her culture 😛
However, the title of the book is a reference to the Wands suite of the tarot deck, so it might well be a reference to the illustration on the Queen of Wands card from some specific deck the author or the artist prefers.
Mel
January 11, 2012 @ 7:00 pm
These are good. 😀
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Sigrid Drakhjärta
January 11, 2012 @ 7:22 pm
Oh this is awesome! The “Vicious Grace” is particularly funny. That certainly is a practical pose to stand in. Especially when you’re shooting people!
lyda morehouse
January 11, 2012 @ 7:33 pm
You are AWESOME!
Julie
January 11, 2012 @ 8:00 pm
This is just awesome! It was all over twitter today so I just had to come see what all the fuss was about. So. Funny. I must share this with my readers this weekend. Thanks for the laughs and for reminding us that either a) models are uber flexible or b)photoshop is amazing. 😉
Swan
January 11, 2012 @ 8:08 pm
I think you already know what your most popular post of 2012 is.
Oh, and wow. Just wow.
Pete Hautman
January 11, 2012 @ 8:25 pm
Great post, Jim. I’ve been attempting comic book poses in private for years–never had the guts (although I do have the gut, singular, and the infusion set) to go public.
Ginger Juice
January 11, 2012 @ 8:35 pm
Bravo for trying what so few men have and for straying a little bit further down the path of understanding. If you wish to continue down this perilous path, but with much less physical risk, I suggest you also peruse this link. It is an analysis of the difference between the poses of female and male superheroes. Don’t be drinking anything when you first glance at the link.
Ginger Juice
January 11, 2012 @ 8:36 pm
http://rosalarian.tumblr.com/post/2325861377/dressed-to-kill I supposed it would help if I posted the link…
Mel
January 11, 2012 @ 8:37 pm
I figured this was going to show up soon. 😀
Mel
January 11, 2012 @ 8:39 pm
By that, I mean the missing link, so to speak. Good stuff!
Jim C. Hines
January 11, 2012 @ 8:43 pm
Details…
(And yep, I’ve seen that one 🙂 )
Jim C. Hines
January 11, 2012 @ 8:44 pm
I checked the hit counts for this post. I’m pretty sure that in the less than 12 hours it’s been up, this post has already been read more times than any one of my books.
I’m not entirely sure how to feel about this 🙂
Jim C. Hines
January 11, 2012 @ 8:44 pm
Have you ever done a photoshoot before? Those lights get hot! 😛
Jim C. Hines
January 11, 2012 @ 8:45 pm
Thank you! Yep, you picked the one day something I posted went moderately viral and my inbox exploded 🙂
Maria
January 11, 2012 @ 9:00 pm
HILARIOUS. We had a few cover discussions on my blog a while back–so– do you take requests?? This pose is all over the place–you need to try it!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Attack-Underworld-Detective-Agency-ebook/dp/B005CRY7YQ/ref=pd_sim_kinc_1?tag=bearm-20
Almost the same one:
http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/images/misc/2011/08/pose.jpg
And the same one with a gun:
http://www.bearmountainbooks.com/favorite-reads/art-reviews/cover-art-discussions/have-you-ever-shot-a-gun/
To be most realistic, you probably need to try it in heels…
:>)
Elizabeth Anne Ensley
January 11, 2012 @ 9:01 pm
The missing link. XD Sorry, but that bit struck me as funny, too. It’s always nice to see female representations as more than anatomical caricatures.
Jim C. Hines
January 11, 2012 @ 9:06 pm
Hm … drawing on karate, that looks like a very exaggerated low cat stance. I could probably pull that one off!
But I don’t think there’s a single pair of high heels in this house.
Cat
January 11, 2012 @ 9:35 pm
Dear Jim, I want to thank you so much for taking the time and physical effort to pose for these photos! I had just come home from a 10 hour day as a nurse at a prison, had a man with no insurance back into me at the gas station, and gotten off the phone as mediator with a fight between my parents when I saw your photos. Thank you very much for the therapeutic hysteria induced by them!!!! I needed to laugh until I cried (especially the one where you show your insulin pump site….nurse-nerd humor deluxe). Thank you again.
Chris Howard
January 11, 2012 @ 9:56 pm
Similar: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/04/j-scott-campbells-mary-jane-entertainingly-mocked/
Wendy S. Delmater
January 11, 2012 @ 10:11 pm
Okay Jim, I’m dying over here. Whatever you do, no bodice ripping! *chortles*
Hendrik Boom
January 11, 2012 @ 10:20 pm
these are not poses that suggest strength. You can’t fight from these stances. I could barely even walk.
Given how difficult these poses are, it must indeed take real strength to hold them. Not only that, but to look casual in them as well. I’d say you’re wrong on the strength angle.
Elizabeth Anne Ensley
January 11, 2012 @ 10:48 pm
The strength to gold the poses is one thing. The strength to both hold those psoes, and hold your own in a fight, both at the same time? I think not. ;3
Paula Handley
January 12, 2012 @ 12:47 am
If you’ve read Princess of Wands, you should remember that the “soccer mom” in question had a great deal of martial arts training. I’m thinking that it has something to do with that more so than either dancing or floating. As for the Author (Ringo) or the Artist (Stephen Hickman), I don’t know if either of them have a preference for any tarot deck. “Queen of Wands” will be book 2 in the “Special Circumstances” series.
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Karen
January 12, 2012 @ 2:00 am
Thank you for standing up (in many different poses) for the idea that strength — especially for women — does not lie solely in sexuality and that the fantasy genre is not a euphemism for pornography!
Mike Cope
January 12, 2012 @ 2:11 am
Great stuff! At minimum you ought to attempt the other two poses on the cover of The Stepsister Scheme.
Stacia
January 12, 2012 @ 3:39 am
Echoing the sentiments said here already about the poses being unrealistic. Also wanted to add that when I had my (thus far) only set of professional photos taken at the fair age of 18, the poses I was put into by the photographer were unbelievably painful. Even the head shots involved leaning forward to get a specific angle of the neck and chin. The photographer bragged about how much pain he put other models through, because the look of the photo (and the art, as you have shown) is more important than the human. It’s fascinatingly insane.
Ami Angelwings
January 12, 2012 @ 3:50 am
http://eschergirls.tumblr.com/post/15715572060/http-www-jimchines-com-2012-01-striking-a-pose
I put this post up on my tumblr! 😀 You’re awesome for doing this!
Also, if you want more material, I have some fantasy art covers on my tumblr too, as well as the comic poses… (or if you just want to see more examples of this XD )
Mrs Toast
January 12, 2012 @ 3:58 am
Ha ha, brilliant!
I work in the games industry, and one of the artists worked on this classic at his previous company:
http://clzimages.com/game/large/50/50_1770_0_XG3ExtremeGRacing.jpg
The image originally started out a bit more plausible, but the publisher kept on insisting that the poor woman’s spine had to be broken in order to show both boobies and bum more prominently…
Sunny
January 12, 2012 @ 4:07 am
Wow, that was really enlightening! Thankyou!
Jim C. Hines
January 12, 2012 @ 7:32 am
You’re welcome, and I sincerely hope your week improves!
Jim C. Hines
January 12, 2012 @ 7:33 am
Goblins are cool!
(Yes, I’ve been watching and channeling Matt Smith lately…)
Jim C. Hines
January 12, 2012 @ 7:38 am
Sweet, and thank you! I’ve actually been looking through your tumblr — it was recommended many times by people who read my post. Love it!
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Linda Poitevin
January 12, 2012 @ 8:43 am
Oh, my…priceless! I’d long grumbled about the lack of clothing on UF heroines (insisting that mine be professional-looking in the fully clothed sense on my covers), but I hadn’t considered the poses themselves. Thank you for the entertainment…er, I mean the eye-opener, Jim…I will never again browse the fantasy section of the bookstore without remembering your valiant efforts here. 😉 Oh, and I hope your back feels better!
Emily
January 12, 2012 @ 9:31 am
I really appreciate you mentioning this. This is something that has always bothered me and often is overlooked as ‘just how the business goes’, which is really unacceptable. I am okay with sexuality, but the ‘butts and boobs’ contortions seen in comic books/bookcovers/videogames are too much. At that point its not sexy, its just skeezy. Anyway, thanks again! I am definitely going to look up some of your books to read now ^_^
Maria
January 12, 2012 @ 9:31 am
I demand to see it!! I actually did the pose, and it wasn’t too bad with no weapon in either hand and using my hands to get balanced. Then I tried it with a gun (not a real one). There’s one cover out there with a lady who has a crossbow doing it. The thing is, it’s way harder to get into position not using your hands and not pointing the weapon at anything you want to keep! Then you have to aim the weapon without falling over…
Come’on. Even without heels, this could be your author photo!!! (Although…although…there’s some good ones above…)
jesse
January 12, 2012 @ 9:44 am
Followed Kevin Hearn’s link here from facebook. Any one with the sense of humor to attempt this has just landed on my “authors I must read” list. Incidentally when I was studying illustration as part of an art major I never completed we were encouraged to draw the form in mid motion as apposed to static. Some of the cover art I’ve seen is combat possible provided the image is taken from an instant during a largern movement.
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Maria
January 12, 2012 @ 10:23 am
Oh, I STRONGLY disagree!!! We need at least one bodice ripping scene!!!!
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Vanades
January 12, 2012 @ 10:40 am
I just tried this pose (without heels though) and managed to get into position without using my hands, but I might have the advantage of several years of ballet-training even though I’m totally out of shape.
Stef
January 12, 2012 @ 10:40 am
Here is another cover I just don’t quite get: Dead Reign by T.A. Pratt (http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Reign-T-Pratt/dp/0553591355/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1326382228&sr=8-8). So she apparently is landing after jumping down from something (that is what I’m assuming anyway) but ever since I first saw the cover there are just things that bug me. Like the position of her legs and her boobs are off somehow. What really gets me in most of the covers out there are when they make the character large chested and yet put them in clothing that definitely would not support such a large chest by itself, and in most cases there is no bra in sight.
I try not to focus too much on the covers nowadays (even with the series that I like).
WK Trail
January 12, 2012 @ 11:01 am
Especially when you’re showing that you can be a little bit foxxy!
Maria
January 12, 2012 @ 11:14 am
Agreed–it’s not too bad if you have some balance. With practice you could probably even get there and up in a hurry. The thing is…why would you? Why not fall flat on your stomach, brace your arms and fire? Why not just crouch down? What’s with the leg out to one side? And if it were ONE cover with the pose, I’d never have noticed. I think I ended up blogging about 4 or 5 such poses–one with a crossbow, one (At Grave’s End) where I don’t know WHAT she’s doing, one with two guns (one in each hand) and one with one gun…it’s WEIRD. The pose isn’t even all that sexy.
I think we need Jim to try it (with photos) for a final decision. :>)
Brooke
January 12, 2012 @ 11:19 am
I used to work as a figure model, in art classes. Students wanted us to take these poses, or other poses they’d seen in photographs, expecting us to hold, exactly and for hours, contortions that the human body wasn’t designed for. Thank you for noticing, and bringing attention to it.
Lisa Martincik
January 12, 2012 @ 11:24 am
I love you. Also, note the frequent importance of being able to see the breast and butt AT THE SAME TIME. Gotta get all the goods at once. *sigh*
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January 12, 2012 @ 11:49 am
Actually, they’re leaving out the foot fetishists. Not that you hear them complaining, but…..
Liz
January 12, 2012 @ 12:01 pm
First off, glad to have found out about you, your books look awesome and I’ll be getting some soon.
Second, I think the woman in Queen of Wands looks like she’s jumping and halfway through swinging the swords through someone’s skull. The pose can’t be held, because it’s actually moving.
And some of the poses become a lot easier to handle if we assume gymnast-level flexibility. Or even regular attendance at bellydance class.
cicatrice
January 12, 2012 @ 12:14 pm
You at least used cover art which is (almost) reasonable for your examples. There is an artist, who shall remain nameless for this piece, whose figures regularly defy gravity AND lose perspective (a giant sextopus not actually touching the babe-in-the-brass-bikini which it is holding over its head, for my example).
Insulin pumps are not sexy but you wear yours well.
robi
January 12, 2012 @ 12:24 pm
I am now going to go read your books because you are clearly awesome. Thanks for making a great point in a hilarious way!
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Angie
January 12, 2012 @ 1:20 pm
My favorite female writer of fantasy and sci-fi tends to have really good covers. I don’t know how much say she’s getting in it, but the women on her covers look truly bad ass, as well they should!
My favorite is The Deed of Paksenarrion…who wouldn’t want to be able to sword fight effectively from a horse?
Also, Rules of Engagement has a good cover…realistic space/battle armor, that isn’t all about showing off curves instead of protecting the owner of the curves!
Thanks for doing this, these are fantastic! Women certainly like looking attractive, most people do…but many covers are so obviously all about sucking men in to read the book, and not about showing the character’s strength.
(Another good one from Elizabeth Moon, the cover for The Serrano Succession.)
Sihaya
January 12, 2012 @ 1:25 pm
“Night Mist” is displaying an aerobics move, one that Jane Fonda used to do. Some hula dancers warm up to it still, and they keep their center of balance low and knees bent in order to bring the hip up like that.
“Vicious Grace” shows a somewhat tribal style maya – a bellydance move. The artist ripped off Shakira’s move from “Hips Don’t Lie,” and her costume from “Whenever Wherever” (the tour, not the video). That said, I’ve seen sixty year old women who weigh two hundred pounds stand that way. The trick to protecting your lower back while sliding your hips down and sideways like that is to tighten your core so as not to jerk the spine (and the model has done that). Yay bellydance!
And I guess that might bring me to my ultimate point. I agree that the purpose of these covers is to attract the viewer to the model’s physical attributes (the same way that half of paranormal romance covers feature shirtless dudes), but the poses are actually not beyond the capability of a real, live woman with only a moderate level of physical fitness. They’re not unnatural, as some people are asserting. You are looking at the covers as a trained fighter when the model may have been a trained dancer instead (and admittedly, only on one cover is the model actually in combat, and that’s a fantasy scene where she’s actually floating).
That said, hilarious job. Thankyou.
Amber Love
January 12, 2012 @ 1:28 pm
This is brought up in comics on a daily basis. There was a booth at one of the conventions asking men to pose like one image of Wonder Woman and how silly they came out. Then about a month ago, someone released an illustration of Marvel Avengers if all the male characters were posed the way the one female (Black Widow) was and if she was given their treatment. It was viral immediately.
Sydney
January 12, 2012 @ 1:31 pm
You are my hero for this.
KatG
January 12, 2012 @ 3:01 pm
Your wife’s a lucky woman, Jim.
Trey
January 12, 2012 @ 3:05 pm
Thank you for doing this, Jim!
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Elfie33
January 12, 2012 @ 4:07 pm
OMG!!! It’s official!! You have made my day…I’m still laughing. My favorite is the Yasmine Galenorn pic. Awesome stuff
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Susan
January 12, 2012 @ 5:39 pm
I literally almost cried!
But where are your awesome tattoos? Your tramp stamp?
You really need to do one of those poses where the cover model is crouching down in a menacing fashion, often with one leg extended in a contorted fashion. When I look at those, every joint on the southern part of my body hurts in sympathy. I’d need a crane to get me back into upright position. And forget about effectively wielding my gigantic sword/gun/whatever.
Danielle
January 12, 2012 @ 6:29 pm
Thank you. Thank you very much for this post!
Melissa Chapin
January 12, 2012 @ 6:35 pm
What they said! :))
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Elizabeth Anne Ensley
January 12, 2012 @ 7:08 pm
You know why this post is so popular, Jim? Because this has been a common complaint. Something that no one in charge of covers (with exceptions, of course, because there are some really good, realistic ones out there) ever listens to. A lot of it may be ennui: this is the way it’s always been done, so this is the way it’s done. Luckily, styles do change, occasionally, and you may have just helped evolution along. ;3 Other than that, it is a fun post, which also explains why it’s so popular. Also thought-provoking, for those that may never have thought, really thought, about it.
Hillary
January 12, 2012 @ 7:28 pm
A friend of mine is a photographer and he did a series of “Men Ups” which feature men in traditional pin up poses. They’re quite interesting and in a similar vein to what you’ve done here 🙂
Actually, I just realized that someone else did link to him, but this is the complete set 🙂
http://www.flickr.com/photos/clickandclash/sets/72157626584908000/
John
January 12, 2012 @ 9:09 pm
Yeah, some of the poses that get used for cover art are pretty silly. On the other hand, I’ve noticed, sadly, that at 54 I’m more flexible than a number of my young students of either gender (I’m a fencing coach).
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A Cup of Earl Grey
January 13, 2012 @ 4:18 am
<3 <3 <3
This sums up every issue I’ve ever had with girls on fantasy/sci-fi covers. Keep it coming!
David
January 13, 2012 @ 6:24 am
Funny:) and not a bad physique either!