Double-Facepalm (Jim’s Talking About Rape Again)
While at Penguicon, whenever I used my phone in the lobby, it would try to connect to the local wireless networks, which means I was routinely greeted with this screen:
I don’t know the story behind the network names. I overheard one rumor that “rape rape rape rape rape” was an official Penguicon network. When I e-mailed someone on Penguicon staff, I was told it probably wasn’t, but they weren’t 100% certain. I haven’t yet gotten confirmation one way or another.
My guess is that someone was trying to be edgy and provocative. As sometimes happens, they overshot “edgy” and landed squarely in the “asshole” category.
There will always be people who try to be shocking and fail. I suspect this wasn’t an official Penguicon network, and was instead just a random cry for attention. (Though if it turns out that it was an official Penguicon network, I think that may be the last time I attend this con.)
ETA: Randy Bradakis, who is on the Penguicon ConCom and Board left the following comment (with the disclaimer that he’s not speaking for Penguicon as a whole here):
I can state firmly that this was not created at the request of the Penguicon ConCom, and that there will be discussions about both the reasons that this is unacceptable and how we can be certain that it is not repeated. While it might, in some specific in-joke sort of way, have been amusing to the creators at whatever other location it was created for, it is not the sort of “joke” that should be part of the Penguicon environment.
There are plans for more specific network requests for next year, and I will make it my recommendation that we at least have someone at the ConCom level give specific instructions to the networking staff about the image we wish to present.
I want you to know that I am deeply sorry for any offense that this caused. At any and all levels of future convention running that I am involved, I will strive to keep the idea of a safe and comfortable environment foremost in everyone’s mind, and encourage this behavior in my fellow Con-runners as well.
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On a similarly annoying note, I’ve been reading The Becoming by Jeanne Stein. Within the first chapter, our heroine Anna Strong is attacked and raped by the bad guy, who turns out to be a vampire. I almost stopped reading right there, due to the “Let’s use rape to get this story started!” approach, but I’m trying to read more urban fantasy as context for my own work-in-progress.
I’m now more than halfway through the book. The word rape has vanished, and Strong’s character has now begun to refer to the incident as when a vampire had sex with her. (In addition, while our heroine is female, so far every other significant character has been male … but that’s a different rant.)
Writing about rape is difficult, in no small part because everyone’s reaction is different. But when an author uses rape as a plot device to get the story moving, pulls out the “rape = sex” fallacy, and doesn’t seem to indicate any physical or emotional effects on the character (save becoming a vampire, naturally) … well, for me it puts the book squarely into the “Doing it Wrong” category.
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Comments and discussion welcome, as always.
UnravThreads
May 11, 2011 @ 10:27 am
Those are valid points, Jim. People wouldn’t stand for it if we were talking less serious things, such as homosexuality or maybe even skin colours, yet things like rape and maybe even transphobia are seen by some to be “funny” when used in such a context. I fully agree if you decide not to go to Penguicon again if it’s their own network, because it’s unprofessional, childish and not funny.
As for the book, I get turned off very quickly by my annoyances. I hate it when books greet you with sexual things instantly (Black & White, an urban fantasy/superhero novel almost did that, as did Gail Carriger’s first steampunk novel – Souless, I think). Let the story get started before adding sex, rape and other things. If you’re going to use them, do so wisely and well. If you’re going to make a character have sexual feelings towards someone, then don’t make it seem like a Mills & Boon novel. If you’re going to have a character who’s raped, then consequences need to be imposed on at least the victim, as they are very likely (If not certain) to have some form of trauma or issue after the event.
I’m sorry if I diverted a bit too much, but I fully agree with your thoughts on both counts. Keep fighting the good fight!
SylviaSybil
May 11, 2011 @ 11:13 am
I’ve read Soulless by Gail Carriger and I think you must be confusing it with some other novel. The opening scene is a vampire attack and the first kiss isn’t until halfway through the book.
Eva Shandor
May 11, 2011 @ 11:58 am
Attempting to re-post this to my tumblr. This will sound exceedingly niave, but it always weirds me out when female authors do this.
D. Moonfire
May 11, 2011 @ 11:58 am
I’m not fond of rape as a plot point, actually it is one of those things I always mention when I do reviews and it makes it a “non Fluffy friendly book” (that and hurting animals). I felt that in that story, the problems with rape disappeared rather quickly, as you mentioned, and it wasn’t very realistic. And I like my fantasy logical. 😛
Jim C. Hines
May 11, 2011 @ 12:02 pm
Naive perhaps, but I have to admit I had a similar reaction.
UnravThreads
May 11, 2011 @ 12:35 pm
I was thinking more about the implication Alexia was getting aroused (Or at least more than slightly interested) every two seconds she was around one of the werewolf blokes.
Eva Shandor
May 11, 2011 @ 1:15 pm
I remember being very perturbed when two female friends said a few years ago that they found ‘arrogance’ attractive in a guy! “Not loads though, just a bit.” It’s not exactly related to the above topic, but I feel like it’s a mindset that could put you in some horrible situations.
I remember thinking and saying “…Don’t you mean confidence?” I think there’s a lot of bad messages out there about passivity and how assault is perceived; this is something schools should be dealing with when they talk about ‘relationships’. It won’t solve the problem overnight, but it would be start.
torgeaux
May 11, 2011 @ 1:29 pm
I haven’t read the book (or any book by the author), so I can’t say for sure, but let me ask this:
Is it possible that the CHARACTER is minimizing the rape? That is, the character, not the author, is reacting in a way that is not uncommon in those suffering from trauma? If it’s not played out that way in the book, then I wouldn’t say that’s possible, but maybe by the end the character will sort this out, and realize they are doing this? Or someone will point it out to the character. At least hope for this scenario, because it will address an actual issue associate with rape, instead of using rape as a cheap and easy plot device.
Jim C. Hines
May 11, 2011 @ 1:31 pm
I obviously can’t say what the author’s intentions are. All I can talk about is how I read the book. Given comments like “It’s frightening you because you realize you were a participant, not a victim,” from another character and the overall story so far, I stand by my statements about the book.
It’s certainly possible that the end of the book will redeem everything. I’m not holding my breath.
Jordan Lapp
May 11, 2011 @ 3:17 pm
Interestingly, the first network “freeporn” (there, now your site will be listed as having adult content), was probably a “honeypot”. Which is to say that it’s an eye-catching, attractive network to use. However, if you DO use it to send anything over http (not https), your passwords and whatnot will be stolen.
torgeaux
May 11, 2011 @ 4:07 pm
Yowza. That sort of language is gonna be difficult to back away from. Certainly seems like they’re not headed in a useful direction. Thanks for reading this so I won’t have to.
D. Moonfire
May 11, 2011 @ 5:10 pm
(I noticed your HTML is adding a tab in front of the mail field again.)
http://d.moonfire.us/blog/2009/03/30/the-becoming-by-jeanne-c-stein/
If you are curious, I did post my review of that book some time ago. It does brush up on a few of the topics, you’ve already mentioned.
bookishdragon
May 11, 2011 @ 6:58 pm
I’m a huge fan of Gail Carringer and I found Alexia’s interest in the attractiveness of the werewolves to be a commentary on the duality of the Victorian Era. Straight laced on the one hand and sexual on the other (under some proscribed rules). Besides why wouldn’t an adult female find attractive males, well, attractive?
Michele Lee
May 11, 2011 @ 7:12 pm
You need to avoid Any Given Doomsday by Lori Handeland then. I despised that book. The MC spends chapters talking about struggling with a relationship with a “bad boy” type then finally standing up for herself and keeping away from him because he’s bad for her. Then she’s drugged and raped by another guy to “activate” her powers (which are absorbing other people’s powers through sex) and after a token moment of outrage the guy says it was to activate her powers and she wanted him anyway so it doesn’t matter he just “sped things up”. She agrees. Then the whole damn book cumulates with a 2 week long captive and raped and beaten scene by the ex she fights at the beginning of the book, and she decides to win him back to humanity (he’s half vampire) by loving the rape and ends the book wanting to redeem him. Horrible stuff.
But the UF I’ve read that handed rape the best was Patricia Brigg’s Iron Kissed. It’s the third book in the series and the scene and aftermath are both brutal. Three books later the lead, Mercy does still suffer from nightmares and some triggered paranoia that she didn’t have before. It’s a plot arc and consequences that are handled very well.
Also great is Stacia Kane’s Downside books. The books are rough, and maybe too realistic. The main character was rather abused as a kid, raised in another world where there was a ghostly uprising and now a church-government (but not one of our religions) rules. Chess, the lead is a functional addict, drugging herself up in an effort to not have to face what’s happened to her. The whole drug abuse thing also isn’t just fixed with the love of a man, or with one book’s resolve. It’s a rough read, but goes lots of places others don’t.
I suppose it goes without saying, but I’ll say it anyway. Avoid the Anita Blake books if at all possible. They start okay, but in the last two books Anita herself has sex with a minor and magically rapes and breaks the will of side character and doesn’t really care about it. It seems that’s where the author is going to try to stay edgy now that the blatant sex is passe.
Jim C. Hines
May 11, 2011 @ 7:16 pm
I’ve read the first Stacia Kane. That was an interesting read … I think it’s a bit dark for my personal taste, but it wasn’t offensive or angering the way this one was.
Jim C. Hines
May 11, 2011 @ 7:43 pm
I agree with you on the writing style, and on the book being overall a quick read, and a bit of a page-turner. But yeah on the problematic aspects.
I don’t get the mirror/reflection bit either … though in a way, it’s kind of nice to see a callback to some of the older vampire stories.
liz
May 12, 2011 @ 12:51 am
If you ever read the Wheel of Time, I’m interested to know what you think of the Tylin/Mat scene. Little background: Mat is sorta like a Maverick character, Lovable-rogue and woman-chaser. He will never go after a woman who has let him know that she is not interested. Tylin is queen and has her eyes on Mat from the get go. She basically seduces him at knife point. I say ‘seduces’ because whether or not it was rape has been disputed. I’m pretty sure that Robert Jordan didn’t intend it to be rape, merely a juxtaposition of roles. However, like you said in another comment, we can’t really know that or even fairly take it into account. The first time I read it, it came across as a funny scene with Mat completely out of his element because he had no idea what to do when a woman was chasing Him. Other readings have opened my eyes. They end up having a relationship, though with her being the dominant partner. I’m curious to know what you think on the matter if you ever get around to reading them. I know its a long shot. There are over 12 books, and counting. Btw, the series is my favorite epic fantasy and I Do recommend them to such people looking for long reads.
Jim C. Hines
May 12, 2011 @ 8:33 am
Liz – I haven’t read Wheel of Time, but will keep this in mind when and if I do. (I’m a little nervous admitting I haven’t read Jordan … that sort of thing could get me kicked out of the cool fantasy author clubs.)
Cy
May 12, 2011 @ 9:51 pm
Some people’s insensitivity never fails to surprise me, even now. =__= I wonder why making rape jokes is funny to some people. Okay, to some GUYS. Sorry, but it’s true–you get women who have that silly “rape = sex” misconception, but I really haven’t run across a woman who jokes about rape the way our “witty” PenguiCon hackers did. Do you think it’s because most men really have no realistic knowledge of rape, and have zero means or wish to empathize with rape victims? I feel like, despite how many good men there are who make a conscious effort to be sensitive, and who honestly do respect and acknowledge women like you, there are plenty more who still see women in a mostly external and objectified light, and I’m sure those men are the ones who are unable to imagine that they should or *could* empathize with women, and least of all rape victims.
After all, judging by how often we see women get raped in the media and how male rape is practically non-existent, men apparently don’t get raped–so it’s hard for them to care since it’s such an irrelevant thing to them (oh yes, just another girly thing like PMS and tampons and stuff like that). Or if male rape is portrayed in media, it only seems to happen to hapless side characters or villains or someone who is NOT the hero, and therefore, not someone the male reader needs to identify with.
So that makes me wonder… would it actually behoove men to see more of their heroes put into situations where *they* are the rape victim or at least in real danger of being raped? (and not just in some ridiculous porno fantasy way) I definitely feel like there’s a stigma against that in our culture, as though it would “unman” a hero too much to allow him to go on as the hero, as though male viewers couldn’t wholeheartedly like him or view him as a hero afterward. Which is complete crock. And a shame as well, because I feel like positive role models of male rape survivors would probably help the men and boys who *have* been raped and perhaps make it easier for them to talk about their own experiences and thereby get help/get passed it.
Hmmm, I’m really thinking now that if some great, iconic hero had to endure that trial and find a healthy way to deal with the aftermath, that would go a long way in a lot of ways–helping male rape victims, of course, and also in helping insensitive men learn to empathize with rape victims by making it relevant to them. Then, maybe, rape will stop being such a big joke to guys like the “rape rape” server idiots.