Girly Books
From time to time, I get an e-mail or a comment from male readers who enjoyed my goblin books, but are hesitant to pick up Stepsister Scheme or Mermaid’s Madness because they look like they’re for girls.
My reaction to this is all over the place. The goblin books went over well with younger boys, and I can understand why a teenage boy might be hesitant to walk around with a book that has three women surrounded by swirling pastels on the cover. I also think it sucks that we’re still raising boys to think it’s shameful to be caught reading something “feminine,” but having been a teenage male myself, I can understand that reluctance.
I like the cover for Mermaid better, less because we lost the pastels, and more because I think it’s just a great image. But I still get the questions. This is obviously a book about three girls, so doesn’t that mean it’s written for girls? (Much as Name of the Wind was written for red-haired boys, and the Zombie Raccoons anthology was written for decaying scavengers.)
I’ve said in multiple interviews that I wrote Stepsister for my daughter, in response to the Disney/Barbie princess infestation we went through at the house. So in a way, these books are written for girls. Or at least for one girl. Which means … what, exactly? I don’t even know what a “girly book” is. I assume it’s shorthand along the lines of:
Boy Books = Action/Adventure; Girl Books = Romance
Boy Books = Plot/Idea-centric; Girl Books = Character-centric
Boy Books = Explody things on the cover; Girl Books = Chicks and pastels
There’s value in being able to find the kind of books you want. If you’re into character-oriented fiction, you want to be able to discover those books in the store. You don’t want to buy a book, take it home, and discover that what you thought was an action-packed vampire adventure is actually a 400-page relationship angst-fest. I get that. But trying to classify those preferences by gender, with all of the stereotyping and judgement that goes with that? It doesn’t work for me.
Josh Jasper wrote a piece over at Genreville about genre shame, and about being male and reading romance novels. “Why should I be ashamed of reading something fun when women aren’t? The answer is that I’m afraid of being judged by people I don’t know, whose opinions don’t really matter, about something they have no real business judging me over. Social conditioning is strange and stupid.”
When you ask me if Mermaid and Stepsister are girly books, the answer is that I don’t even know what that means. I don’t want to know. I can’t tell you whether or not you’ll like the books, but I can try to give you an idea what they’re about and let you make your own decision. In a nutshell, the princess series is about:
Fighting and magic and family and fairies and revenge and unrequited love and requited love and hairy trolls and sailing and a three-legged cat and flying horses and wolves and drunk pixies and sewer goblins and enchanted swords and mermaids and friendship and ghosts and strong women and not-so-strong women and also some men and birds and rats and lots of ass-kicking.
It’s bad enough we still try to force people into fairly rigid gender roles. Do we really have to do it to books too?
Steve Buchheit
December 15, 2009 @ 10:26 am
Wait a sec, they’re girly books? Oh noes! Des on me Xmas lists. Me family will think I’ve gone all sissified. Damn you, Hines, damn you to hell ::shakes tiny fists in the air like a girl::
Um, yeah. So I guess reading the Orange and Yellow books of fairy tales, liking urban fantasy, dissecting where Disney went wrong in their classic movie-length animation, and explaining the curse on the Beast and how that relates to the Frog Prince and contrasts with Babba Yagga stories to my nephew (who is in graduate school at USC for script writing) probably didn’t help either.
But, you know what, when the evil queen asks me to take her step-daughter into the woods, kill her, and bring back proof, I know what to do. All my relatives are just going to be wondering around in the forests like the extras in a Midsummer’s Night Dream. Just saying.
Jim C. Hines
December 15, 2009 @ 10:28 am
Bwa ha ha ha! You’ll be dressing in pink and going to the ballet before you know it!
Deborah Blake
December 15, 2009 @ 10:10 pm
Why is it okay for women to read mysteries, horror, and adventure books (and see all the movies, said the woman who loved the BOURNE films)…but NOT okay for men to read romance? Or, apparently, anything with a woman on the cover. Who’s not naked. Sorry…nekid.
And it is considered empowering for women to play with “boy” toys, but the male child who picks up a doll is sent for therapy. I read STEPSISTER SCHEME and it didn’t seem like a “girl’s” book to me. And I’m an expert on everything except higher math and parallel parking, so you can take my word for it.
D. Moonfire
December 15, 2009 @ 10:28 pm
I think it won’t matter what you say, people will make a decision about the “real” target of the books and stick with them. Like my mother telling me all my novels are horror, even if I’m writing romance. 🙂
I have those books on my list and, chances are, I’ll hand them over to my wife to read as soon as I’m. I don’t care if they are girly (I read more category romance than she does) or not, I just like reading.
Jim C. Hines
December 16, 2009 @ 8:54 am
I don’t know that any decent therapist would take a referral for a boy who played with dolls, but I’ve run into fathers who would freak out if their sons were caught doing anything so “girly” or “gay.” I wonder how much those two things are tied together … the stereotype of the effeminate gay man, and our society’s ridiculously extreme homophobia.
Jim C. Hines
December 16, 2009 @ 8:55 am
Looking back at some of my early attempts at romance in real life, I could see where it quickly crossed the line into horror…
Rachael
December 20, 2009 @ 8:10 am
Thats what I thought about the princess books after I finished reading the goblin books. Then I asked you (Jim C. Hines) What the princess books were about and so far I like them. But, I am possitive I will never love a group of books more then the Goblin series. 🙂
Rachael
December 22, 2009 @ 7:41 pm
When you said “Boy Books = Action/Adventure; Girl Books = Romance
Boy Books = Plot/Idea-centric; Girl Books = Character-centric
Boy Books = Explody things on the cover; Girl Books = Chicks and pastels”
I was shocked because I hate romance and I am a girl and I like books with exploding stuff on the cover and all that. So, what you assume a girly book is is not true. I’m personally don’t even think there is a girly book. It’s just that all girls are different and a girly book to me is a girl who likes book. To them it’s a girly book, but a boy could walk up to the book and like it too. All I am saying I don’t like books because they are girly or boyish I like them because they look interesting. But, if I was you I would probally think the same thing so I don’t blame you at all Mr. Hines. When I saw the Stepsister Scheme I read the back before anything, then noticed the cover. (It’s really pretty by the way, it’s nice).
Jim C. Hines
December 22, 2009 @ 8:19 pm
Rachael,
I think you misread what I wrote. Those lines you quote were guesses about what people might mean when they talk about a book being for girls or for boys. If you read on, you’ll see the point where I say, “When you ask me if Mermaid and Stepsister are girly books, the answer is that I don’t even know what that means.”
I find the whole idea of trying to classify books by gender — these books are for girls, and these are for boys — to be both silly and very stuck-in-the-past.
And I’m glad you liked the cover for Stepsister 🙂 I’ve just seen the revised cover art for the third princess book. Hopefully I’ll be able to post that some time in the next month or so…
Rachael
December 22, 2009 @ 9:05 pm
Ok, thanks for clearing that up. But, yea I’m into art so I like looking at covers of books as while as reading them. Also, about the poem I wrote about Jig in another comment I made a video about, well half of a video the other half is really just saying if anyone thought my video was stupid or annoying I did weird stuff. But, it’s recorded on a game and it would mean a lot to me if you checked it out, you don’t even have to see the whole video if you don’t want too. I know you are busy with your writing and all just, if you about 2-3 minutes to spare please check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2ha6KjuMdU <- thats the site where the video is.
– Rachael