2013 Writing Income
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I’ve been blogging about my writing income since 2007. It’s an odd thing, and feels tacky at times, but I also think it’s important. There’s very little data out there about how much money writers make, and a lot of folks — both new writers and muggles — have unrealistic ideas about the authorial lifestyle. I blame Castle.
My income posts from previous years are here: 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.
From a financial perspective, 2013 has been the best year I’ve ever had as a writer. I sold three novels — books three and four in the Magic ex Libris series to DAW, and another project I can’t talk about yet. All total, before taxes and expenses, I earned about $60,800 — enough that I was able to pay off my wife’s student loans and put a little bigger dent in our mortgage.
While the year-to-year income is much more erratic than what I’ve made at my day job, the overall trend makes me happy. I expect I’ll probably make less in 2014 than I did last year, in part because I’ll be busy writing those novels I sold last year, and I highly doubt I’ll sell three more before the end of this one. On the other hand, there will be the D&A (delivery & acceptance) for at least two of those books, along with the on-publication payment … I have no idea what 2014 will look like, but it shouldn’t be too bad.
The writing expenses for the year actually dropped to a little over $1000, thanks to a number of Guest of Honor and Toastmaster invites, which reduced my convention costs. (Thank you!!!) My income tax payments are going to take a much bigger chunk out of things, but that’s to be expected.
The income breakdown is a bit different this year.
- Novels (U.S.): $55,350
- Novels (Foreign Editions): $1,000
- Self-Published: $1,650
- Short fiction and Nonfiction: $1,500
- Miscellaneous: $1,300
This is by far the least I’ve ever made from foreign language sales. (I’m not including the U.K. deals for Magic ex Libris here, because while U.K. English is indeed a foreign and confusing tongue, that deal was done as a sublicensing thing through my U.S. publisher, and I’ve only ever included non-English income in that category in prior years.) I honestly have no idea what happened here. It’s the second year in a row I’ve seen a significant dropoff in foreign income, and it’s something I’ll be following up with my agent about.
The income for my self-published stuff remained pretty constant. I don’t make a lot of money there, but considering I do zero work, I’m not going to complain!
Looking at the last few years, if it was just me, I’d be giving serious thought to quitting my day job, signing up for insurance through the ACA, and writing full time. But with a family of four to support, all of whom have health issues of one form or another, I’m not ready to make that jump quite yet.
For a little more background, I’m a U.S.-based author, and I started trying to write back in 1995, so realistically, it’s taken me 18 years to get to this point. I have nine fantasy novels in print with DAW. The first came out from DAW in 2006. The last two were published in hardcover. Most of my books have made the Locus bestseller lists, though I don’t hit the NYT or USA Today lists. (Yet.) I’m primarily — almost exclusively — a “traditionally” published author.
As always, please keep in mind that I’m a sample size of one. Trying to draw any broad, sweeping conclusions from such a sample would be … illogical.
With that said, I hope this is helpful, and as always, I’m happy to answer any questions folks might have.
Mark Terry
January 8, 2014 @ 9:57 am
From my perspective, you’re doing very, very well, Jim. I understand it was a big year because of the number of sales and that the following years may vary, depending on if you get additional contracts or various subsidiary and secondary sales come in. But bringing in that amount from fiction means you’re very successful. Kudos to you.
Jim C. Hines
January 8, 2014 @ 10:06 am
Thanks, Mark. And don’t get me wrong – I’m quite pleased with 2013, and with how my career has been going so far.
Shannon Ryan
January 8, 2014 @ 10:34 am
Now I’m picturing you going on cases with the NYPD.
I’d watch that show.
PJ
January 8, 2014 @ 10:37 am
Thanks for sharing. I’m an accountant by trade, and the taboo against sharing salary information is one of my pet peeves. People would have a generally better grasp on personal finances if they were something that could actually be discussed in polite conversation.
Jeff L
January 8, 2014 @ 10:51 am
As far as foreign sales, depending on the specific markets that could simply be a reflection of the economy over there, which is much worse than here in many cases…
I doubt anyone is selling a lot of books in Greece or Turkey right now.
Ken
January 8, 2014 @ 11:13 am
Thanks for sharing this, Jim. I’m always fascinated by your annual glimpse into the mysterious world of professional writing.
I’d be curious to see how the income breaks down over time across income types too: advance, d&a, residual (are there others that I’m not thinking of?)
May your pie be ever higher 🙂
C.L. Wilson
January 8, 2014 @ 11:30 am
Wow, thanks for sharing, Jim! Congrats on the good year! 🙂 It *IS* important for writer’s to share information. Brenda Hiatt does a “Show me the Money” study yearly for the romance market. http://brendahiatt.com/show-me-the-money/ I’d love to see something similar for other markets.
cheers
Cheryl
Martin
January 8, 2014 @ 11:37 am
Thanks for the information.
Concerning foreign novel sales: Usually US authors only get me as foreign reader only once: when i buy the first book from them (usually when suffering reading withdrawal symptoms and i am in some dark railway station book store).
Once he is on my list, all further books are bought on amazon.com as eBook and will no longer count as foreign sales for you ;-). Usually i am even registered as US customer then since Amazon sometimes won’t sell new books to foreign readers (your books had the same issue when part 2 of Ex Libris was released).
So the strange realities of rights and wrongs in digital areas make people virtually migrate to the US in order to buy your books. No wonder foreign sales are stalling: virtually there is no one left there to buy them. I stopped trying to make sense of all of this and just hope that there is no virtual INS out there to catch me :-).
P.S. I took a look at amazon.de. The first book of the Ex Libris series in German language is still two months from release (part 1, part 2 is due in seven months). So it is hard to make a sell there.
P.P.S. Will you come to Germany promote your books? Would surely increase foreign sales 😉
Laura Resnick
January 8, 2014 @ 11:56 am
2013 was also my best-ever earnings year. I made about 5% more than Jim, and I have been writing professionally for almost 26 years (my first book sale was in Feb or March 1988, when I was 25 years old and working two minimum-wage jobs, a total of @ 50 hours/week without earning enough to live on, as a college graduate).
I only support one person (myself) on this income, and writing is my full-time living–I don’t have a day job or benefits. Since 2013 was a good fiscal year, I was able this year to pay off some debt, do some redecorating to my new house, buy 2 new computers (desktop and laptop) and an iPad, spend comfortably on entertainment and outings, etc., and still set aside a very reassuring chunk of money for 2014.
My income varies a LOT from year to year (something I had to teach the CPA who’s been preparing my tax returns for 25 years). So do the sources of my income. In 2012, about 35% of my income came from ebook sales of my self-published backlist, and that income was instrumental in my being able to buy a house that year. This year, my self-published earnings are probably only 12%-13% of my overall income. Last year, 0% of my income was due to signing a new contract. This year, about 45% of my income was due to signing a 4-book contract (with DAW). One year, something like 70% of my income was due to foreign sales; most years, it’s been about 3% (this year it was 0%).
Looking ahead to 2014, I can calculate what I’m due to earn based on my delivery and publication schedule with DAW, which house has been uusually reliable about paying me when expected, compared to most houses, which helps with my fiscal planning. I can also calculate what I’ll earn for my Nink column, a regular monthly check. Otherwise, it’s a crap shoot. What will my DAW royalties be? I don’t know. What will my self-published royalties be? I don’t know. Will I make subrights sales? I don’t know. What will my short fiction income be? Don’t know. Will I sign a new US contract? Probably not in 2014, since I currently owe 4 books and need to write 2-3 of them first.
Rob
January 8, 2014 @ 11:57 am
I admire you for:
1) persevering
2) publishing your income
I make my meager income freelance content writing. I’m working on a book, but put sales in the back of my mind while writing. Too depressing to think about, but I enjoy the process and it’s a creative break, so I focus on that.
Keeley
January 8, 2014 @ 12:36 pm
Thanks for writing this, Martin – I didn’t know that foreign sales were calculated that way, and it’s always nice to learn something new.
Bjarne Bjerklund
January 8, 2014 @ 1:56 pm
As one of those libriovores that seem to infest local book stores from time to time, it´s always a pleasure to discover up and coming authors like yourself. When I first stumbled across the reticent yet heroic goblin and his pet fire spider it was just what I needed. Although I don´t work in a book store anymore, I still seem to sell at least a copy a year to random strangers browsing for something new(is it sad that I lurk around the fantasy section to push literature on my time off? Could be worse I guess, I could be pushing shades of grey)
In any case, most authors never get to quit their day jobs. It´s simply hard to make that transition, and a lot of authors don´t know to handle their cash flow. Never having made the transition in their head from writing as a hobby, and making it a career as a self employed artist. It´s hard, and I applaud you for both the wisdom in sticking with your day job, and for the success you´ve had with your books so far. I used to consult publishing houses in norway for translation rights, and you´re one of the people I would have love to have gotten over, but the vast majority of fantasy readers in norway are at least semi-fluent in english, so there´s not much pull there unless you have a major breakthrough like Pat Rothfuss or a movie/TV deal like George R.R.Martin or John Scalzi.
Enough of that, let me just congratulate you on your best year so far, and hope that the upward trend continues with the growth of your backlist and readership.
Sincerely,
Bjarne
Alexander Kerste
January 8, 2014 @ 1:59 pm
I read some of your Goblin books (a friend lent me his copy) and thought about buying some of your other books in the local book store here in Germany, but none had it in stock (a year before, I had seen them there). It seems to be hard to find books here (at least in the larger book chains like Thalia or Osiander – and there aren’t many smaller book shops remaining) which are older than half a year or maybe a year. And I didn’t go to Amazon yet to buy them, sorry:-) Yes, I could order them to the local book store, but I’m not too often in the city.
Anyway, the SciFi/Fantasy shelf is quite small (especially if you ignore the Warhammer/StarTrek/etc-series), so there is not much promotion for your books. They probably are mainly sold to those readers who already know you… and there is quite a number of German readers who prefer buying the original, which is sooner avaiable, cheaper (some books like GRRMs Game of thrones are split into two books) and, well, not all translations are good. But I’ve got no numbers about how many books from UK/US are sold to Germany.
Anyway, it’s interesting to see that you make about the same amount of money in the foreign markets as I do in Germany with my first, self-published astronomy book and a similar amount of marketing power:-)
I don’t know if a visit to Germany would boost your sales, but if you do and come to southern Germany: Please tweet about it, so I won’t miss it:-)
Sally
January 8, 2014 @ 3:27 pm
So apparently our foreign pals are buying books or e-books from the US/UK, and thus their money is in a different column. I know I was excited when amazon.uk opened up, as there was a series I loved, and the US was two books behind — I was caught up before anyone else I knew only b/c I happened to spot the paperbacks in an Edinburgh bookstore, and we hadn’t even gotten them in hardback here! (Most of you reading this will understand how giddy I felt) A few years later, the publisher finally smartened up and went day and date with the books in all English-speaking countries.
The ones who can still afford to buy books, of course. The financial situation in parts of Europe is very bad indeed.
We have the image of Teutonic efficiency and optimal engineering, but from what I read here and other places, it seems the German publishing industry makes ours look like a futuristic starship going lightspeed. Get some of those Nurburgring boys on it. (Minus the crashes)
Jim C. Hines
January 8, 2014 @ 3:36 pm
We are in emphatic agreement on this!
Jim C. Hines
January 8, 2014 @ 3:36 pm
I suspect that may be a factor, yes. (Though I’ve also heard anecdotally that people are *more* likely to turn to books in times of financial hardship … short answer is that I don’t know.)
Jim C. Hines
January 8, 2014 @ 3:38 pm
Generally my advances get broken into three chunks – an on-signing payment, the D&A payment (when I turn in an “acceptable” manuscript), and the on-publication payment. The exact breakdown there varies from one contract to the next. I’d have to do a lot more digging to get into the rest, but I may look into that…
Jim C. Hines
January 8, 2014 @ 3:39 pm
Thanks for this, Martin!
And I would love to come to Germany to do a book tour or convention or some such. Unfortunately, I don’t see it happening any time soon. But hopefully one of these days!
Jim C. Hines
January 8, 2014 @ 3:41 pm
Awesome, and congrats! And thanks again for sharing.
I’ll be curious to see what happens when some of my backlist reverts to me and I can try self-publishing those. Right now, everything’s still in print … which is also cool, and means I don’t have to do anything. But I like the idea of a more diverse income stream.
Jim C. Hines
January 8, 2014 @ 3:41 pm
I figure if you’re enjoying it, and if it’s making your life better, any income is just a bonus!
Jim C. Hines
January 8, 2014 @ 3:43 pm
Thank you, Bjarne!
Quitting the day job is mostly still a dream … but as I’ve done better over the years, it’s become a dream that gets frustratingly close. Stability and security are both important for my family, but maybe one of these days. Or if Hollywood wanted to add me to it’s big movie deal list, I certainly wouldn’t object!
Sally
January 8, 2014 @ 3:55 pm
Financial hardship is one thing; long-term unemployment is quite another. Sadly, the new books are one of the first things to go. I know. 🙁 If it’s a choice between rushing your damn cat to the ER vet AGAIN and books, kitty gets the MasterCard and Amazon doesn’t. (He’s all better, thanks. Dork.)
Martin
January 8, 2014 @ 4:35 pm
Please let us now early (publishers have strangely antiquated methods of informing fans) in your blog if you should plan to cross the big pond. Anything in Western Europe is not a big trip for me.
I missed Patrick Rothfuss last year in Madrid only by a few hours and could have adjusted my travel schedule easily if i had known of his trip earlier (which will haunt me for the rest of my days).
Alana Abbott
January 8, 2014 @ 5:42 pm
I’d also be curious about those numbers (so you know you’ve got more than one reader interested!), particularly the percentage of the novels chunk that’s from older books (royalties and whatever else comes in there).
Thanks as always for posting this!
Jim C. Hines
January 8, 2014 @ 6:37 pm
Will do 🙂
Jim C. Hines
January 8, 2014 @ 6:39 pm
So noted 🙂
Martin
January 8, 2014 @ 9:28 pm
I should write a piece on the German book market. It is a big driver of literary emigration :-). But most foreigner will not believe it and think it some kind of satire-horror-crossover.
David Youngs
January 8, 2014 @ 9:30 pm
Jim (and Laura)
Is any of the variation due to publishers paying irregularly? I believe DAW to be pretty upright, but do royalties show up in the wrong year or months behind?
J.P.
January 8, 2014 @ 9:31 pm
Thank you and good luck in 2014!
Steve C.
January 8, 2014 @ 9:53 pm
I appreciate the openness about your writing income. It can’t be be an easy life, but I’m sure it has its satisfactions.
I remember hearing an interview with Kurt Vonnegut some years ago where he remarked that becoming a writer in the 50s was actually a good financial move. In terms of income one could have nice middle-class existence as an author. I also remember hearing about Robert Silverberg making $200 week in the 50s, pounding out short fiction during that time. All it took was 8 hours per day at the typewriter, 6 days a week.
NB: $200 week during the 50s is about like $100,000 per year now.
KatG
January 8, 2014 @ 11:06 pm
A distinction needs to be made here for folks. “Foreign sales” are when non-English publishers in non-English territories (France, Germany, etc.) buy the rights for the book in their territory, put out their edition in their language and sell it. Foreign sales thus include advances that foreign publishers may pay the author (or sometimes the author and publisher if the publisher had rights to sub-license.)
The UK is technically a foreign sale territory for authors in the U.S. (which sometimes includes Australia or sometimes Australia is separate.) In Jim’s case, he has sub-licensed the UK territory rights to his U.S. publisher who has then sub-licensed them to a British publisher. Jim and the publisher have a split of the monies from that sale and the British book sales royalties. So some of the money coming from his U.S. publisher is actually foreign sales. But Jim is counting as foreign sales those non-English licences he sells directly to foreign publishers.
Copies of the book in English from Jim’s US publisher can also be imported into non-English countries like Germany. These are not being counted as foreign sales, though they are a kind of foreign sale. Someone in Germany who reads English, as many do, might buy one of Jim’s books in German from the German publisher first, and then may order subsequent books (e-book or print,) in English as imports through a vendor such as Amazon from Jim’s U.S. or British publisher. These import sales would show up in the accounting from Jim’s U.S. publisher. The German publisher loses the sale to the English language market. Since foreign publishers (and this includes if say a German author is selling to a U.S. publisher,) sometimes publish a good bit after the original publisher, those who don’t want to wait, or find an import cheaper, etc., may do this.
However, this doesn’t necessarily end up reducing sales in a territory like Germany in the long term. The better the book does for booksellers like Amazon and for the U.S. publisher, the more foreign publishers will want to put out editions of Jim’s books. So Jim may have been the victim of publishing schedules this year. Also, contemporary fantasy has a little harder time, from all reports, picking up territories globally than secondary world stories like Jig and the princesses. But given how well the Ex Libris series is doing in the U.S., I suspect that foreign sales will pick up a lot for the series in the next few years.
It depends on the number of books sold, but it sounds like Jim may have moved up this year as a category market bestseller. And then we could have the Ex Libris television show. 🙂
Ell
January 8, 2014 @ 11:15 pm
Castle is amazingly wealthy for a guy who spends 20 minutes a week at the keyboard.
As for public salaries – I used to work for a state university. Once a year, EVERYONE’S salaries were published in a special edition of the campus newspaper. I never heard anyone have an issue with anyone else’s salary.
I also used to work for several corporations where salaries were secret. It got *ugly*.
Thanks for the transparency. It’s useful and fascinating.
Amy Sisson
January 8, 2014 @ 11:30 pm
Exactly what I was going to say. On the rare occasion I get to Germany, I go to bookstores and stock up on books in German that I’ve already read in English, as a way to practice reading German. It’s very hard to find books that aren’t the Big Thing Right Now. The bookstores there are usually smaller that our big ones and don’t have the space for as much inventory, I suspect.
Debra Holland
January 8, 2014 @ 11:54 pm
I remember reading an earlier blog about your income, when a writing income (of any kind) for me was just a dream. Thank you for your transparency. Now, I’m a NY Times and USA Today bestselling author for my Montana Sky Series–sweet historical Western romances, originally self-published, now some still self-published and others published by Amazon Montlake.
My fantasy series, alas, is not as popular–a smaller market, but I still made about $6000 on them in 2013 and the last book of the trilogy wasn’t finished until recently. I’m on my second year of a six figure income, and have cut back on my psychotherapy practice and corporate crisis and grief counseling to write more.
I’d urge you to try to at least try to self-publish a few short stories if you haven’t time for novellas or full length novels due to your contract. If your contract allows you to set them in your fantasy world, all the better. It will bring you new readers and additional income.
I haven’t read your books, but they sound like just the kind I like. I’m off to buy the first one.
And as a commenter said above, “May your pie chart be even bigger in 2014!”
Alexander Kerste
January 9, 2014 @ 1:42 am
I remember one more thing: If I do a contract with a German publisher, I only receive an advance and the rest of the money when the manuscript is finished. This covers all of my revenue for the first edition. After this, I only get more money if a second edition is printed, which is rarely the case.
So you probably didn’t get money from foreign countries because no new books were published – it doesn’t matter how many books are actually sold each year. It’s a big difference to self-publishing which I easily forget.
Sara
January 9, 2014 @ 1:46 am
Obviously, I don’t know what the terms of your contracts are like, so I don’t know if this is possible, but…if you want to be a full-time writer, self-publish something! Look at how well Ilona Andrews are doing on their own. Clean Sweep spent quite a while in Amazon’s top 100 (~1000 copies a day) at 4.99 USD with 70% royalties. Let’s say that they sold 20,000 copies of that book so far across the vendors – that’d be about $70k in royalties. Not to mention that the book (which is only 60,000 words, for the record) will continue earning for many years, depositing cushy delicious moolah into their account on a monthly basis.
If they can do it, so can you. 🙂
You won’t remember me, but I posted about earning $3000-ish in my first year of self-pubbing on your 2011 earnings post. I’ve earned 100x that in 2013, and you are a much better writer than I am. Dude, it’s time for you to join the ranks of authors who never have to leave the house or put on pants!
Markus Mäurer
January 9, 2014 @ 5:14 am
Concerning the foreign rights: I can only speak for Germany, but here has been a sharp decline in the sales figures and most publishers who publish fantasy have reduced their programs about 20%. Mostly regarding foreign writers, because a translator (I am one) is more expensive than a German writer (and both a not really being paid well).
Jim C. Hines
January 9, 2014 @ 7:39 am
Yep. Given the choice between paying an author for a novel and paying an author and then also paying a translator on top of that, the economics are pretty straightforward.
I really wonder what’s going to happen as ebooks continue to chip away at things like territorial boundaries.
Jim C. Hines
January 9, 2014 @ 7:42 am
Congratulations on your success!
I’ve got one novel and three collections out as self-published work. It’s been a nice bit of extra income each month.
Jim C. Hines
January 9, 2014 @ 7:43 am
I haven’t run into that sort of problem, no. The irregularity has been more due to how many books I sold in a given year (if any), and the breakdown of when the advance is paid (part on signing, part on delivery, part on publication). Plus fluctuation in the amount of the advance, foreign sales, etc.
Jim C. Hines
January 9, 2014 @ 7:44 am
“I don’t know if a visit to Germany would boost your sales, but if you do and come to southern Germany: Please tweet about it, so I won’t miss it”
I’d love to get over there one of these days. And no worries — when and if it happens, I’ll be tweeting, blogging, and generally bouncing about the trip 🙂
Markus Mäurer
January 9, 2014 @ 8:32 am
There were already a lot of Germans who read books in English. Since 1999 it is no problem to order American or British Editions via amazon without additional costs. Due to the relatively low prices for English ebooks (German ebooks cost mostly the same than the print edition), this trend will increase. It is also a problem that German publisher more and more only publish English fantasy books that are already bestsellers or that fit into the typical genre-formula/cliché.
Beth
January 9, 2014 @ 8:36 am
YES YES YES
I work in the financial planning industry, and I completely agree.
Like too many others, my parents didn’t talk to us about sex or money. Instinct will help a little when you’re trying to learn about sex, but not much. The near-universal level of financial illiteracy in this country is appalling.
Thank you for this series, Jim!!
kailiia
January 9, 2014 @ 12:08 pm
Thirding that request for a breakdown (assuming it isn’t overly time consuming). The way things add up is always of great interest.
Laura Resnick
January 9, 2014 @ 12:27 pm
David, variation on the basis of irregular payment (or, indeed, payment that never comes) is often part of the big fluctuation. To give a few examples:
I know an award-winning bestseller who went more than a year without receiving the six-figure advance check due for a book because the book’s new editor demanded 4-5 rewrites over the course of a year and then, after all that, refused to accept and publish the book. (The writer then sold the book elsewhere for a similar sum -and- subsequently delivered a replacement book to this publisher, which MS was accepted and published because, by then, the problem editor had left. But there’s an example of a HUGE fluctuation in income, based on a bad editor’s whims.)
Shortly after signing me for a book, a publisher folded and reverted my rights, so I never got 2/3 of the money I was ancitipated due to my contract. (For various reasons, that book had only a few possible markets, and with so many writers suddenly in the same boat, my MS never found a new home.)
When I wrote for Tor Books, it habitually took 6-8 months to collect delivery-and-acceptance from them (“D&A,” the money you’re paid when you turn in your MS to your editor), so I’d deliver a book in summer and might not get paid until the following year. (I’ve talked to several Tor writers in the past few years who’ve asked me how I got paid that “fast,” since they’ve been waiting more than a year for their D&A payments.) Similarly, it took Tor 25-30 months to publish each of my books, whereas a-year-or-less has always been my experience elsewhere, which meant it took 25-30 to collect my upon-publication payment from them (the final installment of a writer’s “advance”). And in addition to the 2+ years I routinely waited for the on-pub pymt, there were sometimes ADDITIONAL delays at Tor when a book would miss a publication date due to gathering dust in-house, so that neither the book -nor- the on-pub check would be released when expected, and (since no one had informed me, the author, of this) I’d be surprised by yet -another- delay (of at least a month) in a check I’d already been awaiting for a very long time. (Because of my experiences at Tor, ever since then, I have it written into all my contracts that my D&A has to be paid within 60 days unless the publisher declares the book unpublishable and cancels the contract; and my on-pub had to be paid within 12 months after D&A -whether or not- the publisher has published it.)
I sold a non-fiction book called REJECTION, ROMANCE, & ROYALTIES about the writing/publishing biz (it was a collection of my Nink columns) to a small press. After the first year, my royalty statement should the book was within about $20 of earning out, so I would soon be receiving royalties… And I never received another royalty statement, let alone a royalty payment. I pursued and pursued this problem with the publisher, which shut down its website, left its offices, and disconnected its phone. In one letter, the publisher claimed that book was out of stock, out of print, no longer selling, and had failed to earn out. In -reality-, the book was still available online retail vendors and easily available for order in bookstores for THREE MORE YEARS–and I never saw a penny of those sales. After 18 months or me (and occasionally my lawyer) going round and round with this publisher, I realized I’d never get the money owed me, so I requested (and got) immediate reversion of all rights (while the book was still in print and selling) in exchange for my walking away. It was the best way NOT to become part of the bankruptcy that company was obviously headed for–with my royalty earnings already down their drain.
In a fairly famous example, about 20 years ago, Kensington simply did not send out autumn royalties to its writers until the following year, because it was setting up a new accounting system (or something) when it should have been mailing autumn checks.
One year, I was expecting 3 checks in December, NONE of which came. In one case, “the person who pays the writers” went away on vacation without paying the writers and wouldn’t be back until mid-January. In another case, “the person who pays the writers” had been rushed to hospital with a kidney infection, he wouldn’t be back until January, and no one else was willing to step in and pay the writers that year. In the third case, they were “really busy” and (chuckle, chuckle) just hadn’t gotten around to paying the writers (chuckle, chuckle), but they’d probably (“probably! chuckle, chuckle”) get to it in January. Nor was that the only time (I can think of at least 2 others) when MULTIPLE checks failed to show up until about a month after they were supposed to, so I was borrowing money and living on ramen, even though I was heavily contracted and owed money.
One yet another occasions, I signed a contract–and the publisher folded while the contract was in the mail to them for their signature. So that’s a check I was expecting in a few weeks which I never got at all. I also had a 3-book contract canceled when the published suddenly dumped about half its writers (including me)–so that was a LOT of my income up in smoke all of a sudden, without warning.
So, yeah, there are alllllll sorts of reasons for the variations in come. In addition to the ordinary (signing, writing, release schedules, and royalty income varying from year to year).
chacha1
January 9, 2014 @ 1:37 pm
I would totally go to a Magic Ex Libris movie.
chacha1
January 9, 2014 @ 1:41 pm
Thank you for the numbers, Jim. I have no intention or expectation of leaving my day job to write full-time, but it’s still interesting to see how others who are more serious writers get on.
I opened an Etsy store and started self-publishing in 2012. That year I made more from the Etsy store than from royalties.
Last year, self-publishing took the lead. I closed the Etsy store. Royalties are still a trivial amount, but at least I don’t have to submit a state Sales & Use Tax return on them. 🙂
Re: Castle: I’m just happy there is a successful TV show about a writer.
Sally
January 9, 2014 @ 2:53 pm
“Cars: Sehr Gut. Books: Sehr Schlecht.”
Guess
January 9, 2014 @ 3:20 pm
I came her from Scalzi’s site. Do you have any posts on the hours you guys put in and how you manage your time between projects including work other than just writing? Jim you said you work a regular day job and then work on your writing on the side. Have you blogged about how you juggle all these hours and then time for your family?
My understanding is that royalties only get paid twice a year right? So your income comes in for the year very sporadically too.
Have you ever had an issue with your employer being concerned that you are an essentially self employed writer on the side? I have found that many employers want to be your only source of income and they wouldn’t like that you were also a writer.
Jim C. Hines
January 9, 2014 @ 3:34 pm
Hi Guess!
I’ve talked about it, but it’s been a while, and I can’t find the links.
Basically, I write during my lunch hour at the day job. I also squeeze in some evenings and weekends as necessary (usually as I get close to deadlines). I’ve upped that schedule for the past six months, because I committed to writing two books in a year, when I usually only do one.
The juggling is an ongoing challenge. I’ve never felt like I have enough time for family, writing, day job, house care, self care, etc. I do the best I can to keep it all in balance, but I fail sometimes.
Royalties are twice a year for me, but there’s also income coming in from other sources, like subsidiary rights sales, new book deals, delivery & acceptance payments, etc. But it’s not unusual to go a few months with almost zero income, then get a Very Nice Check in the mail.
As for my employer, they’ve been very supportive of my writing. That was one of the reasons I took a job here, almost 13 years ago now. I’ve been very fortunate in that regard.
Guess
January 9, 2014 @ 3:41 pm
shouldn’t your agent be watching out for you and adding lines to contracts with payment dates? I would think if you had one that didn’t do this it would be time to replace this person. I work in IT and have done a lot of independent contracting and I learned the hard way to never sign a contract without a firm payment date.
Martin
January 9, 2014 @ 5:17 pm
Tiny bit more complicated…. Will you see it when i attach to this threat on the weekend?
Laura Resnick
January 9, 2014 @ 6:12 pm
Guess: that’s a whole different subject, but most agents are not very knowledgeable about contracts or very good at negotiating them, and are also not very inclined to to pursue, stick with, and resolve problems like the ones above. In the instances above where I’ve described the problems of other writers, they had literary agents. In most of my own instances described above, a literary agent was involved in getting me into those messes and no help whatsoever in resolving them (while nonetheless collecting 15% of the earnings). I’ve paid my literary lawyer to resolve or work on some of those problems -in addition to- having paid my various former agents 15% of those deals. All of these common weaknesses in literary agents are among the (long list of) reasons I ceased working with literary agents in 2007, since when I’ve had a much healthier (and also more lucrative) career. However, we are getting off topic with this. Suffice it to say, “shouldn’t your agent do something about that?” is usually an unproductive path of conversation.
Paolo
January 9, 2014 @ 6:23 pm
I also break my income down into categories of Advances vs. Royalties vs. Subrights, just so I can see how passive income like royalties from past work adds to advances, which come from active forward moving work. It helps me understand what would happen to me if I suddenly stopped being able to write for some reason.
Gerd
January 9, 2014 @ 6:44 pm
Jim, can you give a rough estimate of the hours per week you put into writing and your day job? That would helpt to put these numbers into perspective. Anyway, thank you for sharing this information!
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Jim C. Hines
January 9, 2014 @ 7:09 pm
Day job is 40 hours/week. The writing varies, probably 10-20 hours/week, on average.
David Youngs
January 9, 2014 @ 9:40 pm
Thank you, Laura.
Pam Adams
January 9, 2014 @ 11:17 pm
My fears with the idea of quitting the day job are due to the need for insurance, etc. Until/unless we get single-payer health care, the need for health coverage will keep many writers employed by ‘the man.’
My experience in this is older- from the 1980s, but when I follow Jay Lake’s story, I don’t see that much has changed. My late husband, Robert Adams, was a full-time writer. Everything that Jim and Laura have discussed above as to income coming in unpredictable lumps, and that there was no depending on that income showing up when promised.
Now add heart attacks, cancer, or something chronic like diabetes. Without health coverage, writers (or any other self-employed person) can’t keep up with costs.
Stephen A. Watkins
January 10, 2014 @ 9:04 am
As always, my hats off to you for your continued commitment to transparency! I hope that I will have the courage to behave in a similar manner if I ever find myself in a similar position as a published author.
J.P.
January 10, 2014 @ 10:19 am
Jim may not have time to write a novel on the side to self publish. He’s got contracted books to deliver with guaranteed advances. And the Ilona Andrews self pub book has done well, but likely has not made as much as advances on Ilona Andrews trad published books.
Guess
January 10, 2014 @ 11:13 am
most authors rave about their agents on their blogs. doesn’t sound like they are worth 15% other than to get you in the door and submit early works to publishers. I believe I read on one agents blog that she talked about how she helps with contracts.
15% is an awful lot to pay them just to forward your manuscripts and do a read through.
Michael J Sullivan
January 10, 2014 @ 11:18 am
Kat is absolutely correct…and there is another point I want to make about this. Generally royalties are calculated on list price and some standard rates are:
* 6% – 8% for paperback
* 10% – 15% for hardcover
But when an English language book is exported to a foreign country (or is sold at a high discount) then usually there is another lower royalty rate that authors get. In my case my royalty goes from $1.12 a book to about $0.34. Now there are increased costs in such transactions and I’m sure this is one of the reasons why the publishers justify the lower royalty…but here’s the thing. The royalty is based of of net receipts (the money after all the fes are paid for). Again in my contract 7.5% of net sales means that for every $1 earned I get $0.075 and the publisher keeps $0.925. I don’t know about you all but a 12:1 share between the publisher and the author in such an arrangement doesn’t sit well wit me.
Jim C. Hines
January 10, 2014 @ 11:18 am
Depends on the agent and your needs.
Laura and I have had very different experiences. That doesn’t make her experience or mine less valid, nor does it mean one of us is wrong. I’ve kept my agent because he does much more than that, and because my numbers suggest he’s bringing me additional income for my work that significantly exceeds the 15% commission he takes.
Guess
January 10, 2014 @ 11:21 am
Then there is the time you have to spend on your blog and your website for marketing… along with responding to people like me.
thanks for this post. Very interesting. Thanks to Laura too. I actually had never noticed Laura Resnick before her posts here. I like to try new authors. So at least she got one more person buying her books.
I don’t think most people realize that authors are small business owners and entrepreneurs. That is a completely different experience than most people have. Most of us work for a company and have most of the issues you deal with handled for us and then get a pay check every 2 weeks. I’ve been self employed before so I have an idea of what you have to do deal with.
Guess
January 10, 2014 @ 11:23 am
However, its 50-60 hours a week doing 2 completely different jobs. I have had jobs where I have to work 50-60 hours/week, I am sure that is easier than juggling 2 completely different professions.
You go to work and have expectations at your day job. Then you have to maintain that motivation and work on your writing, blog, marketing, contracts, publishers, and do all that without a manager to tell you when everything has to get done. Most people would have trouble focusing.
I like reading author blogs. One thing that amazes me is the focus it takes to BITHOC (butt in chair, hands on keyboard) and to do that every day on your own at home and to not procrastinate.
Eric Honaker
January 10, 2014 @ 11:46 am
Yes! I would totally watch that. Especially if there were a toy Smudge in every episode.
Guess
January 10, 2014 @ 11:52 am
do authors talk amongst themselves and discuss who the better agents and which agents to avoid?
Michael J Sullivan
January 10, 2014 @ 12:05 pm
Thanks for sharing. The unreliability of writing income is indeed a very challenging thing. It’s amazing just how many challenges this profession provides ;-). It’s definitely a profession where it behooves the author to have the smallest economic footprint possible. I refinanced my house last year to get my monthly needs reduced and will only breath comfortably when I don’t have that at all.
Michael J Sullivan
January 10, 2014 @ 12:19 pm
Jim,
Thanks again for once more sharing this information. It is important to get out there and too few authors do. I think foreign sales are down for all of us. I had very strong foreign sales for my first series and some of those are still coming out slowly but surely. Few are going to pick up the rights for the second series until the first one “gets out there.” Italy, Greece, Turkey and France are particularly hard hit. Germany, iirc has been good for you in the past, is a place I’m coming out in soon. My advance was good both for the print rights and the audio…I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
I join with others here congratulating you on “your best year ever.” But I’m also very upset with an industry where someone can sell three books in a single year and still earn what I consider to be relatively little when compared with the amount of time to produce those works. Do you happen to know how many hours you spend writing (or doing writing related activities) a year? My guess is its quite a bit and when you consider your $60,000 is going to be MUCH less once your taxes and agent is paid, I wouldn’t consider it all campaign wishes and caviar dreams.
You are, and have been a good solid midlist author. Producing multiple titles, producing good revenue for your publisher. The fact that you can have a track record like yours, and still not earn a living wage is a stain on the industry as a whole, and it makes me angry that the system has been this way forever and I see no end in sight.
LauraA
January 10, 2014 @ 12:37 pm
Jim, this is super-useful information. My 8th-grade son (who’s a big fan of Jig) has to do a major school project on a profession that interests him (novelist!), and this will make a very helpful contribution to his research. Thank you!
Jim C. Hines
January 10, 2014 @ 1:13 pm
Some, yes. Probably not enough.
Asking around and doing some research is generally a good idea before signing with any agent or publisher. But it doesn’t always happen. And of course, asking beforehand doesn’t guarantee you won’t run into pitfalls.
Jim C. Hines
January 10, 2014 @ 1:17 pm
Thanks, Michael!
My guess is 10-20 hours/week on average, though it’s hard to say for certain. Especially if I tried to factor in things like blogging or conventions and other related-but-not-actually-writing-fiction activities.
Germany was most excellent for me with the goblin books, but my other series don’t seem to have hit the same sweet spot over there.
Two things I’d note: the first is that the advance from those three book sales is broken up so that I only got one piece of that income in 2013. A decent chunk should be coming next year, with the rest likely in 2015. The second is that the $60K is *after* my agent takes his cut. But before taxes, as you noted.
Though of course, I’d still love to be making even more. How else am I going to afford to buy my moonbase???
Jim C. Hines
January 10, 2014 @ 1:20 pm
Yep. Pretty much everyone in my family has chronic health issues of one sort or another right now, so health care is the number one thing keeping me in the day job.
Val
January 10, 2014 @ 2:14 pm
Beth, me too, and I completely agree. It’s horrifying what people DON’T know about how to budget/save/life within their means.
Christian Klaver
January 10, 2014 @ 2:41 pm
Thanks for posting this info, Jim. There’s so little info to set expectations on that this is pure gold. I’m glad you pushed through the ‘feels tacky’ wall. I wish everybody was doing this.
Laura Resnick
January 10, 2014 @ 5:05 pm
Ell, I thought when I watched a few episodes of CALFORNICATION. The lead character is a burned out writer who hasn’t written or sold a word in 5+ years (at least, that was so in the first DVD disc of the first season, which was as far as I got), and although he was previously successful, his entire output before that was only one or two books… Yet this guy is living in a nice apartment in someplace expensive (I forget where–Beverly Hills? Santa Monica?), he drives a Porsch, he’s got a kid in private school in L.A., and he’s supporting a voracious cocaine habit… All without feeling any financial pinch? After 5 years of not producing any material, while maintaining those kind of expenses?
It’s Hollywood stuff like that which makes everyone suppose that selling 30 books should have made me a billionaire by now.
Laura Resnick
January 10, 2014 @ 5:14 pm
Guess, yes–but this is a veyr complicated subject. An agent who’s very good for one writer if often mediocre/useless for another writer and/or really terrible for yet another writer. And agent who is really good for an author in 2005 may well turn out to be bad for that author in 2012. An agent an author thought was good for her and publicly raved about can be the same agent who dumps her a year later, or whom she fires and sues two years later. Or an agent who an author thinks is doing a great job for her… is an agent about whom she thinks differently after conferring with enough editors and writers to discover that nothing the agent has been telling her for the past few years is actually accurate, true, or informed. Also, an agent who’s great for a writer and really committed when the writer’s career is going well… may become surly, sullen, indifferent, and uncommunucative when the author has problems with her publisher, or her sales sink and a contract is canceled, etc.
There isn’t a formula wherein “my agent does great stuff for me” EVER means “so you’d all do great by hiring him/her, too” or even “and so I can safely assume my agent will continue to be great for me as s/he and I go through time and unforeseen events.”
Markus Mäurer
January 10, 2014 @ 7:00 pm
Well, he sold the book “God hates us all” to Hollywood, it got filmed as a romantic Comedy with Tom Cruise as lead actor, the film (Hank hates it) became a hit. But his money problems will be thematized in later seasons. Not in a real realistic way, but he has to write for a blog he hates, and work as a teacher. Like “Entourage” it is a satire on Hollywood, but mainly a show about the value of family and love. But enough off topic.
Torrain
January 10, 2014 @ 10:40 pm
So very glad kitty is better. Awful how they terrify us.
Martin
January 11, 2014 @ 7:42 am
In this post, Jim wondered about his decreasing royalties from foreign language markets. I offered some ideas and started writing them down in a more sorted way. The resulting text has become a bit longer.
The German Science Fiction & Fantasy Book Market – A Guide For Foreign Authors
http://blog.literarily-starved.com/2014/01/the-german-science-fiction-fantasy-book.html
Mackenzie Lucas
January 11, 2014 @ 7:53 am
Jim ~ Thanks for such a candid look at the numbers. As a debut author, I appreciate it. You just never know what authors are making, and you hear the “big” success stories, but you never hear how it is for the “rest” of us. This post has been helpful and grounding. My husband works full-time to support our family of five and I keep waffling about my contribution–should I write full-time or hold a day job, too. Your numbers give me a good push in the right direction … not to quit my day job, just yet. But, in an odd way, you post is encouraging in the longevity aspect too … as long as I keep at this, keep writing books and publishing, some day I could make good money at it. Thanks again for posting this. So much appreciated!
HelenS
January 11, 2014 @ 4:07 pm
I think there’s a case to be made these days that the author’s royalties should be the same per unit regardless of format, since what they’re contributing to the finished product is essentially the same thing in all cases. If I had a few million dollars free to start an experimental publishing house that might or might not make money, I’d give that business model a try.
Maia Sepp
January 11, 2014 @ 8:19 pm
Thanks for posting this, Jim. I hope 2014 is a good one for you.
Cheers,
Maia
krellen
January 12, 2014 @ 1:04 am
Seriously, thank you for posting this. I really wish more people were more open about what they earned. The transparency can only do good things for society.
Best of luck in years to come!
Michael J Sullivan
January 12, 2014 @ 8:20 am
Also keep in mind that there is a lot of money that is “due” the author that should reach them eventually but takes a while. In particular I’m speaking about “return reserves.” My first royalty statement only counted 35% of my books toward that statement as 65% were reserved for returns even though my return rate was 7%. The next reporting period that reserve got smaller – but I still have thousands of books that have been sold – but for which I’ve not been paid for yet. Since I know my return levels – I know I’ll eventually get that money so it’s kinda “in the bank” – but just in the publisher’s bank rather than my own ;-(
Michael J Sullivan
January 12, 2014 @ 8:24 am
Even when publishers are paying “on time” the payments are drawn out for many reasons.
1. As Jim already mentioned we get our “advance” in three parts – 1/3 when signing, 1/3 on D&A, and 1/3 on publication. Some houses divide this in as few as 2 but others as many as 5.
2. Only a small fraction of print sales are counted toward royalties early in a book’s life. This is because of potential returns. When I got my first royalty statement I thought I was selling poorly until I got the “unit ledger” which showed that 65% of books sold weren’t on the royalty. Those reserves get smaller with each statement and should eventually go down to zero – but it does mean that there are more books sold then the author is paid for – at least in the beginning.
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Guess
January 14, 2014 @ 2:40 pm
thank you Laura for your response. Makes sense. If you are selling well, the agent is making money, if not they are not making money. So they do less. I would think that it would be good to know this kind of information about agents. Though there isn’t a secret formula, I would think sharing this info inside the SFWA would be useful to you guys. Its tough being self employed…
I don’t think most people realize that you guys are all self employed and how different that is from working for an employer.
After reading several author blogs it strikes me as a very tough career for most people. It must take a ton of discipline to sit at a desk and focus on your story all day long and then have to handle marketing, contracts, etc…
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Sylvia
January 28, 2014 @ 12:33 pm
Debrah,
The question in self-publishing is the self-advertising. It’s hard enough finishing the book without creating the cover and doing the advertising and everything else a publisher does.
Sean
January 29, 2014 @ 11:29 pm
Nope got to disagree with you and PJ, but I include a caveat. What someone makes is their own business and no one elses, UNLESS…they choose to discuss it with other people. Whether with specific numbers or in round general terms. Mmm…nay let me put it more bluntly[and I do mean bluntly] If someone asks you what you make, I don’t care who they are, unless you want to discuss it? Tell them to go piss up a rope and mind their own damn business.
Sean
January 29, 2014 @ 11:40 pm
“I know an award-winning bestseller who went more than a year without receiving the six-figure advance check due for a book because the book’s new editor demanded 4-5 rewrites over the course of a year and then, after all that, refused to accept and publish the book. (The writer then sold the book elsewhere for a similar sum -and- subsequently delivered a replacement book to this publisher, which MS was accepted and published because, by then, the problem editor had left. But there’s an example of a HUGE fluctuation in income, based on a bad editor’s whims.)”
Laura..I’ve gone on email streaks harassing the ever loving hell out of at least one editor and her CEO for doing what you described there. Although it probably wasn’t for as much money as that example. that particular subhouse of a major house, has seen nary a dime of my money since.
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Tasha Turner
February 27, 2014 @ 5:24 pm
Great point and things that new or aspiring authors frequently aren’t aware of.
Tasha Turner
February 27, 2014 @ 11:19 pm
Great post. Really helps people understand more about what real income & life for a writer is like. Congrats on your best year so far. May next year surprise you and be even better.