Thoughts on World Fantasy Con
I’ve been hearing a fair amount of frustration with this year’s World Fantasy Convention over various issues.
WFC was the first “world-level” convention I attended, more than a decade ago now. It was intimidating and overwhelming, but also fun and rewarding. Sadly, I won’t be at WFC in Brighton this month. Which could raise the question, “Why am I griping about a con I’m not even going to?”
I’d like to think this isn’t griping. (At least, not just griping.) I think the problems being pointed out are important to be aware of and talk about even for those of us who won’t be at this particular convention. Since a decent number of authors, fans, and conrunners check in on this blog from time to time, I figured it was worth a blog post. I’ve also tried to do some rumor-checking and dig up more information on the various complaints I’ve heard.
The point isn’t to bash the volunteers who’ve been working their asses off to make the convention happen. It’s to say hey, it sounds like there are a few problems here. Maybe some of them can be addressed before the con. Hopefully we can also address them at future conventions.
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WFC is charging £5 to attend Kaffeeklatsches and Book Clubs?
True.
I’ve had one kaffeeklatsche as an author, and there was no charge to attend. It was a lot of fun — a chance to hang out in a more informal setting, enjoy a few snacks and drinks, and just chat. In this case, the WFC website says they’re charging for two reasons.
- They’re passing along the hotel charge for biscuits and coffee.
- As a way to “prevent people taking advantage and reserving multiple slots and then simply not turning up.”
I know I would personally be very uncomfortable with people having to pay to come chat with me at a con. My understanding — and I could be wrong — is that most cons cover the expense for kaffeeklatsches the same way they cover other hotel expenses, bundling it into the cost of the convention instead of presenting this kind of add-on fees.
The only other thing I’ll say is that I know some authors have declined to do a kaffeeklatsche at WFC because of this.
I’d welcome thoughts and input on this one from folks with more experience.
Is WFC deliberately set up to be exclusive?
Under the FAQ explaining why World Fantasy is so expensive, it says, “Unlike many other conventions — particularly World SF — the attraction of WFC is its very exclusivity.”
For the record, this makes the convention significantly less attractive for me. But I suppose your mileage may vary.
Comics will not be sold in the dealer’s room.
True.
While this does not seem to be specific to this particular World Fantasy Con, I agree with Cheryl Morgan that excluding comics because you’re a “literary” convention is a serious fail. I guess I have a very different definition of literature than whoever came up with this rule. I hope this is a policy the WFC Board will reconsider in the future.
Wait, most authors get only one panel or one reading, if anything?
I believe this is correct, though I haven’t found an official policy statement anywhere. It’s also in line with what I’ve seen at other world conventions. Given the number of pros in attendance, most of whom want to be involved with programming, well, there’s only so much room for everyone.
Were they really planning a panel called “Broads with Swords” about those new lady writers “embracing a once male-dominated” genre?
Yes.
While WFC certainly isn’t alone in spotlighting “Women in ______” panels, this one felt particularly clunky and painful. Just read Jess Haines’ post on this one.
What I don’t know is whether the WFC programming folks heard the feedback to this panel and have changed/removed it. Does anyone know if this is still on the schedule?
Is accessibility an issue at this location?
It originally sounded like this was a problem for at least some convention events. However, an update from the WFC Facebook Page states:
“After further discussions with the Hilton Brighton Metropole hotel, they have revealed that there **is** wheelchair access to the Chartwell room via a staff lift/elevator off of the main hotel lobby. We apologise for any confusion our earlier announcement may have caused.”
I don’t know if there are other issues, but hopefully the con is continuing to work to make the event as accessible as possible. (After all, it’s not like convention accessibility is a thing nobody’s ever talked about before.)
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Newbie support!
I also wanted to offer props to WFC for having a designated “Newbie Liaison” for people who are attending their first WFC, or their first convention period. I really like that the con is actively trying to create events and get-togethers for new people, and I’d love to see more conventions follow suit.
Anne Lyle
October 2, 2013 @ 9:45 am
Just wanted to add to your last point – “Newbie Corner” is a regular fixture at FantasyCon, the British Fantasy Society-run annual convention. FantasyCon is on hiatus this year because of the timing clash (I believe the BFS team are involved in organising WFC), with the BFS awards being presented at WFC. I guess they’ve expanded on the idea this year owing to it being a bigger event.
Jim C. Hines
October 2, 2013 @ 9:47 am
Very cool! I wish there had been something like that at my first few conventions. (Or if there was, I wish I’d been aware of it!)
Steve MC
October 2, 2013 @ 10:08 am
About the Kaffeeklatsches, how about BYOB?
That’s biscuits, not broads.
Patrick Nielsen Hayden
October 2, 2013 @ 10:32 am
The thing about World Fantasy Con is that a certain level of “exclusivity” is in its DNA. From the start they made the decision to deliberately charge more than other comparable conventions, and to hold the event in more expensive venues. (Not always better ones, of course, as many WFC veterans call tell you.) It’s worth remembering that WFC began in 1975, at a time when the World SF Convention appeared to be growing by about 50% per year, which had a lot of people rattled–and not necessarily because of any animus toward new people per se. Still, while I think there are often good reasons for a particular con to take measures to remain small (or at least to avoid growing beyond the ability of the hosting group to cope), I’m not fond of using money as the filter. As I’ve said for years, you’d think that a con that presents itself as oriented toward professional writers would charge _less_, not more, because on average, writers have smaller incomes than con-attending fans.
The thing about this World Fantasy Con is that while a certain amount of “exclusivity” is in WFC’s DNA, I don’t think I remember ever having seen a WFC concom push it so overtly as a selling point. At several points in their communications they’re really leaned on the idea that by attending the Brighton WFC and signing up for the right things, you’ll get the super-duper extra-special privilege of hobbing and nobbing with famous professionals not available to the common run of fans. I have found myself more than once reminded of the introduction to the Monty Python and the Holy Grail LP–“Congratulations on buying the executive version of this record. You have chosen wisely and we value your discerning taste in deciding to pay the few extra pence for a product of real quality. Everything on this record has been designed to meet the exacting standards which you have naturally come to expect. The record itself is made from the very finest Colombian extruded polyvinyl. The centerhole has been created to fit exactly onto your spindle with all the precision of finest Swiss craftmanship.” (etc., etc.)
Random Michelle
October 2, 2013 @ 10:45 am
Is it weird that I would have been amused if they’d called the panel Broad-Swords?
But really, how is this a new thing? When I fell back into fantasy in the early 90s, my shelves had Jennifer Roberson’s Tiger & Del stories, Mercedes Lackey’s Vows & Honor (my favorite though was “By the Sword”, and–for heavens sakes–Marion Zimmer Bradley’s Sword and Sorceress anthology series (started in the mid 80s!), which is where I was introduced to many authors writing female fighters.
And now that I looked up the publication date for the first Sword and Sorceress, I found the story list, and want to go back and re-read them all. And name all the great authors who were writing strong female characters back then. 🙂
Droewyn
October 2, 2013 @ 1:08 pm
Seriously! I’ve been reading women fantasy authors pretty much ever since I started reading adult books — and that was before middle school! Do they have any panels that AREN’T thirty years behind the times?
Also, money-based snobbery: THBBBBT! Keep your exclusivity; I’m trying to buy a house over here.
Jim C. Hines
October 2, 2013 @ 1:22 pm
Over on LJ, someone said it wasn’t so much the exclusionary approach that bothered them as the way it was applied. She described using money to weed people out not as exclusionary, but elitist. I thought that was an interesting distinction.
--E
October 2, 2013 @ 1:36 pm
I like that WFC is a smaller convention than WC, but doing it via pricing, and then crowing about it is offensive.
I can imagine, given how costs work, a smaller convention that wants to have a higher-end experience (instead of being tucked into a motel in the middle of nowhere) would intrinsically be more expensive. Certain costs are amortized, and if they’re amortized over fewer people, then it is more expensive per head.
But using “We’re exclusive because we’re expensive!” as a selling point…eew. Those are not people I want to give my money to.
Pam Adams
October 2, 2013 @ 2:16 pm
Other conventions manage to control numbers without necessarily charging higher prices. One method is to cap the membership at a certain number. When they sell out, the con is full.
Sistercoyote
October 2, 2013 @ 3:32 pm
I assume you saw John Scalzi’s commentary on the Kaffeeklatches?
Jim C. Hines
October 2, 2013 @ 3:57 pm
I have, yes. Thanks!
Sally
October 2, 2013 @ 8:46 pm
Wow, I thought it was bad enough from what I read over at Scalzi’s, but now I see it’s even worse.
Might as well say “Only rich able-bodied need apply”.
Many other conventions manage to have limited attendance by simply capping the registration as first-come first-served. So I don’t know why these people are doing this, much less why they’re so PROUD of being snobs.
And the panel… I cannot EVEN.
They’re going to get their small convention pretty easily, so I hope they enjoy being just with themselves. At which point, they should have just had their own con, not use someone else’s good name.
Wherever it is next year is going to have some damage control to do — OTOH, if they’re just non-snobbish, they’re going to look terrific in comparison!
Sally
October 2, 2013 @ 8:48 pm
Also, almost every con I’ve been to has a “This my your first BlahCon, what should I do?” panel on the first day. So I’m not giving them any bonus points for something that’s been standard procedure for at least 20-30 years.
Patrick Nielsen Hayden
October 2, 2013 @ 8:59 pm
“Doing it via pricing, and then crowing about it is offensive”
Yes, exactly.
Soon Lee
October 3, 2013 @ 3:45 am
Re:comics.
Didn’t WFC experience conniptions after an issue of Neil Gaiman’s Sandman won for Short Story that one time?* So the dislike of comics isn’t exactly new.
*It was in 1991.
Broad-Swords | Random (but not really)
October 3, 2013 @ 10:28 am
[…] came to my attention via the always excellent Jim Hines who has been politely and hilariously mocking gender stereotypes for a while […]
Gaie Sebold
October 3, 2013 @ 12:37 pm
So far as I’m aware the ‘Broads with Swords’ panel is still on – because, ahem, I’ve been invited to be on it. I’ve accepted; I’ve done my best to explain my reasons in a blog post, here, http://gaiesebold.com/?p=224 if anyone wants to look. Short version; I thought it might be most appropriate to discuss the problematic aspects of the panel…on the panel. I hope I’ve made the right choice. I guess I’ll find out.
Jim C. Hines
October 3, 2013 @ 12:42 pm
I know at least two of the other panelists made the same decision for very similar reasons. It really makes me wish I could be there to listen to the panel!
Gaie Sebold
October 3, 2013 @ 1:10 pm
It should be, um, interesting. I don’t actually know who else is on the panel yet, which is a pity, as I’d like to have a chance to chat to people beforehand (assuming they’re contactable, of course).
Jim C. Hines
October 3, 2013 @ 1:15 pm
Gale – check out the following LJ comments for two of your fellow panelists.
Moderator Laura Anne Gilman – http://jimhines.livejournal.com/697386.html?thread=20592170#t20592170
Juliet E McKenna – http://jimhines.livejournal.com/697386.html?thread=20599082#t20599082
If you leave a reply to those comments, they should get a notification by email.
Gaie Sebold
October 3, 2013 @ 1:23 pm
Sir, you are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you.
Sistercoyote
October 4, 2013 @ 12:24 pm
Yeah, I realized it was linked prominently in your first link there AFTER I posted.
Silly me. *facepalm.*
Jim C. Hines
October 4, 2013 @ 1:09 pm
No worries. I hadn’t linked directly to John’s post, so there was no obvious indication I’d seen it.
Julia
October 16, 2013 @ 8:04 pm
I find it astounding they won’t have comics in the dealer’s room, yet one of their Guests of Honour is Joe Hill who is well known for writing comics.
The hilarity!*
*because laughing is better than crying