Striking a Pose (Women and Fantasy Covers)
A while back, we had a discussion on the blog about the cover art for my princess novels. For the most part, I really like these covers, but they’re not perfect.
Now I could talk about the way women are posed in cover art … or I could show you. I opted for the latter, in part because it helped me to understand it better. I expected posing like Danielle to feel a little weird and unnatural. I did not expect immediate, physical pain from trying (rather unsuccessfully)ย to do the hip thing she’s got going on.
I recruited my wife to take the pictures, which she kindly did with a minimum of laughter.
Being me,ย I naturally couldn’t stop there. I headed over to Amazon and grabbed a sampling of book covers, primarily urban fantasy, and spent the evening doing a photoshoot.
I’m tempted to use the Night Myst pic as my new author photo.
In all seriousness, I spent the rest of last night with pain running through most of my back. Even the pose in The Shape of Desire, which first struck me as rather low-key, is difficult to imitate and feels really forced. Trying to launch my chest and buttocks in two different directions a la Vicious Grace? Just ow.
To be clear, there’s nothing wrong with being sexual. I can totally see Snow from the princess books flaunting her stuff, for example. But posing like these characters drives home exactly what’s being emphasized and what’s not.
My sense is that most of these covers are supposed to convey strong, sexy heroines, but these are not poses that suggest strength. You can’t fight from these stances. I could barely even walk.
Guys, you should try it sometime. Get someone who won’t laugh at you too much to try to help you match these poses. The physical challenge is far more enlightening than anything I could say. (Wardrobe changes are optional.)
A few covers which I feel do a pretty good job of conveying strong, capableย female characters: The Gaslight Dogs, An Artificial Night, The Darkest Edge of Dawn. Other suggestions and general discussion are welcome, as always.
Related: A contortionist and martial artist tries to imitate a comic book “fighting pose” … and can’t do it.
CBob
February 13, 2012 @ 7:43 pm
*Raises hand* I’m a former martial artist(and a guy). I’m years out of practice, unfortunately, but I can do and hold all the poses pictured easily as well. I do think body type makes a difference, but it’s IMO more stocky vs long than male vs female. The female hip to waist ratio exaggerates thing visually, but it doesn’t effect the mechanics of it.
Mocking these for being contortionist poses, at the risk of being controversial, really says more about how the the author perceives his own level of physical fitness than the poses themselves. These poses are actually pretty tame compared to the ones in Justsayins’ blogpost. Those ones are rightly contortionist poses.
The thing that bugs me isn’t doabilty, but mechanics. Specifically the center character in the first image, which succumbs to a weird tendency that comic book artists often seem to have of giving female characters awkward, mechanically unsound stances which imply weak muscle development in precisely the areas where you’d expect high muscle development and discipline in a fighter. Check out a lot of head-on shots in superhero comics and anime, and you’ll see “strong” female characters with knock-kneed pidgin-toed stances indicative of weak medial hamstrings and chronic poor posture (American artists favor foot pronation, Japanese favor supination). It’s like they think strong women are unattractive, and thus feel the need to compensate somewhere for the fact that they have to draw her with muscles, or in a situation where she’d be demonstrating strength. Or maybe they’re trying to use physical vulnerability to sub for emotional vulnerability, and the process both borking the appearance of physical strength… and exposing their own issues about psychologically strong women.
Mark Esche
February 13, 2012 @ 8:15 pm
Thyank you for demonstrating why it’s called FANTASY. Good Luck with the leg cramps.
Amazon
February 23, 2012 @ 11:47 am
Thanks for this.
While the hip-tilt thing is easier if you have a cis-female body, it still gives you joint pain after a 30-60 seconds of holding still.
Modeling’s hard work, and modeling for action shots (like the one for Queen of Wands) is much harder – we don’t typically hang around, mid weight-transfer, for a reason. ๐
It’s nice when someone *not* in the business is able to point this out. ๐
Cheers,
Amazon. ๐
Malanka Sveta
February 24, 2012 @ 12:38 am
Thank you! I love seeing poses like this done by men.
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greek_jester
March 9, 2012 @ 6:19 pm
I am female, & have been reading fantasy, sci-fi & horror since I was 12 (& that was decades before that Twilight rubbish).
I can say with all honesty that I tend to skip past covers like those mentioned above as they’re usually the sex-trumps-plotline types. Don’t get me wrong, a little romance or smut can be fun, but I’ve got to give a damn about the plot & the people first.
The only books that I’ve ever picked up to read the blurb purely because of the cover art were one involving a dragon crouched in front of a car with rather startled occupants (it just looked really interesting), & one of the earlier Terry Pratchett novels (Light Fantastic, I believe) because I couldn’t believe the art.
Welsh Andy
March 11, 2012 @ 8:54 am
Hah! I’ve never read your books before but you’ve definitely gone onto my ‘to read’ list for this. ๐
Elizabeth Anne Ensley
March 11, 2012 @ 9:00 am
I thought of this post, here, when I got something on my Boondocks feed today on LJ.
http://boondocks–feed.livejournal.com/583426.html
It seemed to be close to th theme, though it’s a low-impact pose. And I’ve seen more women in it then men. Not that it’s really a difficult one, I think. I’d have trouble maintaining it, but that’s just me, I think
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March 19, 2012 @ 3:20 pm
Well, as much as I enjoyed seeing pix of a guy striking fantasy girl cover poses, I DO have to point out that us girlz are built just a wee bit differently … Ya know, the hips thing…. ๐ I myself has unconsciously done some of those … You know, the hip thrust out, hand placed squarely upon it… usually when I’m ticked off. ๐ And you know you’re in trouble when I do the hip thrust with a hand placed on each hip! ๐
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